Comments on: Raising The Stakes http://whynow.dumka.us/2008/04/30/raising-the-stakes/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:38:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Bryan http://whynow.dumka.us/2008/04/30/raising-the-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-36002 Bryan Thu, 01 May 2008 04:44:41 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4120#comment-36002 It was pretty damn embarrassing to lose an modern warship to a WWI mine during Gulf War I, followed by shooting down an airliner ID'ed as an F-14 by the super-duper air defense radar system. All those little boats are going to be a PITA to defend when rockets are incoming from shore and you aren't positive where their subs are. Discounting your opponent is recipe for a nasty surprise. It was pretty damn embarrassing to lose an modern warship to a WWI mine during Gulf War I, followed by shooting down an airliner ID’ed as an F-14 by the super-duper air defense radar system.

All those little boats are going to be a PITA to defend when rockets are incoming from shore and you aren’t positive where their subs are.

Discounting your opponent is recipe for a nasty surprise.

]]> By: Kryten42 http://whynow.dumka.us/2008/04/30/raising-the-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-35994 Kryten42 Thu, 01 May 2008 02:14:56 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4120#comment-35994 Of course. But you are thinking rationally about the Gulf. :) Those sophisticated weapons systems are doing a great job in Iraq aren't they? Just sayin. ;) :D Personally, I think a few ounces of intelligence and ingenuity, not to mention a modicum of bloodthirsty determination, hatred and fanaticism, is worth several tons of high-tech ordinance in the hands of ill-prepared people. But we've had this discussion before. *shrug* Preaching to the choir is a rather pointless exercise. :) Of course. But you are thinking rationally about the Gulf. :)

Those sophisticated weapons systems are doing a great job in Iraq aren’t they? Just sayin. ;) :D

Personally, I think a few ounces of intelligence and ingenuity, not to mention a modicum of bloodthirsty determination, hatred and fanaticism, is worth several tons of high-tech ordinance in the hands of ill-prepared people. But we’ve had this discussion before. *shrug* Preaching to the choir is a rather pointless exercise. :)

]]> By: Bryan http://whynow.dumka.us/2008/04/30/raising-the-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-35992 Bryan Thu, 01 May 2008 01:50:11 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4120#comment-35992 I have a friend who is a retired Navy pilot. He was an Air Boss before finishing out at the Pentagon, and he hated the Gulf. There was no room: you couldn't run at full speed for air operations; you couldn't line up with the wind, you couldn't do anything with the ship to minimize the risks in carrier launch and recovery operations. All that is assuming you have free, unobstructed passage through the Strait of Hormuz. It's not that we don't have sophisticated defensive systems, we do, but the Iranians can overwhelm them with sheer numbers of different weapons. I have a friend who is a retired Navy pilot. He was an Air Boss before finishing out at the Pentagon, and he hated the Gulf. There was no room: you couldn’t run at full speed for air operations; you couldn’t line up with the wind, you couldn’t do anything with the ship to minimize the risks in carrier launch and recovery operations. All that is assuming you have free, unobstructed passage through the Strait of Hormuz.

It’s not that we don’t have sophisticated defensive systems, we do, but the Iranians can overwhelm them with sheer numbers of different weapons.

]]> By: Kryten42 http://whynow.dumka.us/2008/04/30/raising-the-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-35991 Kryten42 Thu, 01 May 2008 01:21:26 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4120#comment-35991 An absolutely correct summation Bryan. Stupidity is obviously running rampant in the US corridors of power. But then, anyone with any intelligence has known that since 9/11/01. From friends and my own experiences in the ME, I am certain that Iran (and others) are just praying that the USA will send a fleet into the Gulf. I have to admit... I'm almost hoping so too. Perhaps the best lessons are the hardest learned. :) Of course, I am ignoring the fact that The Duke and Rambo will arrive to save the day and American Might and Power(tm) will easily win over the pathetic low-tech brownskins. After all, everyone knows how The Duke defeated the pathetic redskins, right? LOL An absolutely correct summation Bryan.

Stupidity is obviously running rampant in the US corridors of power. But then, anyone with any intelligence has known that since 9/11/01.

From friends and my own experiences in the ME, I am certain that Iran (and others) are just praying that the USA will send a fleet into the Gulf. I have to admit… I’m almost hoping so too. Perhaps the best lessons are the hardest learned. :) Of course, I am ignoring the fact that The Duke and Rambo will arrive to save the day and American Might and Power(tm) will easily win over the pathetic low-tech brownskins. After all, everyone knows how The Duke defeated the pathetic redskins, right? LOL

]]> By: Bryan http://whynow.dumka.us/2008/04/30/raising-the-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-35988 Bryan Thu, 01 May 2008 00:30:38 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4120#comment-35988 I'm assuming the carriers are in the northern Indian Ocean and not actually in the Gulf where they can't maneuver and are sitting ducks. The Iranians don't scare, and we are wasting a lot of resources that we don't have playing games like this. If the Hedgemony keeps it up, Ahmadinejad will be elected president-for-life. I’m assuming the carriers are in the northern Indian Ocean and not actually in the Gulf where they can’t maneuver and are sitting ducks. The Iranians don’t scare, and we are wasting a lot of resources that we don’t have playing games like this. If the Hedgemony keeps it up, Ahmadinejad will be elected president-for-life.

]]> By: Fallenmonk http://whynow.dumka.us/2008/04/30/raising-the-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-35984 Fallenmonk Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:46:02 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4120#comment-35984 Now we know one of the reasons Fallon was forced out. He refused to add an additional carrier to the Gulf for just this reason even when Bush/Cheney insisted. Jan 09 can't come to soon. Actually impeachment is well overdue. Now we know one of the reasons Fallon was forced out. He refused to add an additional carrier to the Gulf for just this reason even when Bush/Cheney insisted. Jan 09 can’t come to soon. Actually impeachment is well overdue.

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