Rude?
Drumpf throws a hissy fit because New Yorkers boo his choice for Vice President. The booing is a normal reaction when people ‘jump the line’. Hamilton has been a tough ticket to score for some time and this guy, who is immediately identified as a ‘tourist’ has orchestra seating for himself and his security. The cast made a statement after the curtain call, but the booing was from the audience, not the cast, and it was about privilege, not politics. If it had been a deli line Pence would have been pounded to paste, Secret Service or not.
Rude, on the other hand, is when a recently elected leader tells the leader of another sovereign nation who he wants as ambassador and selects the leader of an opposition political party. Someone needs to point Drumpf to a protocol officer to explain that you don’t conduct diplomacy on Twitter.
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“Someone needs to point Drumpf to a protocol officer to explain that you don’t conduct diplomacy on Twitter.”
Isn’t that sort of like… um… sending classified email over a private server?
Just sayin’.
Twitter is a public system visible to almost anyone who cares. E-mail servers are private and just as secure as you want. Of course, Manning exposed the State Department system to the world, Snowden did the same for NSA, etc. The Clinton server had only one failed attempt according to the logs on the system, logs that generally aren’t activated on government systems, because the government keeps giving work to the lowest bidder, instead of a proven professional.
As for classified information, the FBI thinks that the opinions of personal friends based on public media reports should be classified if they are sent to the Secretary of State. Clinton is a technophobe. She used the same Blackberry model for years. Her staff had to resort to buying off eBay when they went out of production.
There are copies of the actual FBI investigation acquired through Freedom of Information requests that show an entirely different result of the investigation than has been portrayed by Comey. If Trump appointed a Special Prosecutor there would still be nothing there and the money could be better spent on securing the State Department system and making it usable for the employees.
Clinton preferred face-to-face, telephone calls, or documents. She had any e-mail longer than a single paragraph printed out for her. Only her inner circle had her e-mail address, which is why it is easy to separate personal from professional.
More info available at Badtux.
I can hardly wait until Drumpf decides it would be fun to Tweet (some of the few) things he hears in his briefings, classified or not. Oh, the irony.
They took away Obama’s phone and gave him a special secure version, but they will have a fit if Trump doesn’t follow ‘the rules’. The professional paranoids [security] will probably all be in padded cells after a Trump term.
Wow. I read BadTux’s article. Good digging on that.
I thought the Hamilton cast made a perfectly good request. Unfortunately, Trump tweeted all sorts of crap, and now the cast has to have protection.
Trump’s path to the Presidency was being an obnoxious jerk, so you have to accept that many of his supporters will also be obnoxious jerks. If you didn’t grow up in the City you would believe that most New Yorkers are rude. They are just fighting for their personal space in a very crowded environment, and jumping lines is a very serious offense. It’s worse in Tokyo, but much better in London.
Meant to post this a few days ago. The Green Party candidate Jill Stein has won a recount in Wisconsin & is fighting for recounts in Michigan & Pennsylvania, but needs more money.
Trump slams push for US election recount
Good luck! I hope it works out. 🙂
Oh! Damn… And this one also. Sorry, things are hectic currently.
‘US election could have been hacked’: computer scientist urges recount
Wisconsin has had some dodgy election results in the past. With all of the changes that have been made in the rules thinks are really confusing for voters and officials. People tend to interpret meaning of laws in ways that tend to benefit their own interests.
Isn’t that what laws are for? So they can be interpreted by the best lawyer & judge money can buy? 🙂
So far, it seems HRC can’t be bothered. Or cares more for keeping her money than spending it to get elected. *shrug* Stein is doing all the work, and has less to gain than HRC.
Stein may have seen something that Clinton’s people missed. If she has field reports that she should have had more votes in an area than show up in the tally, she may have a case that Clinton doesn’t. I usually cast a strange vote in a lesser race just so I know they are counting my ballot.
Hillary Clinton, like al gore before her, has always been a team player, somewhat cautious about rocking the boat, and has a high regard for following the rules. she can’t afford to be the troublemaker here.
jill stein otoh as a minor party candidate who has long been portrayed by the establishment as an antivaxxer and a conspiracy theorist and just generally a nut, has nothing to lose by stirring up the possible hornets nests.
plus, just because she was one of the candidates in the races where stein has asked for the recounts, Hillary automatically gets to participate/observe. which her legal team has said they will do iirc.
win-win-win for both of them and for the voters too, if you ask me.
Perhaps if she had shown a bit more ‘fighting spirit’, Clinton might have convinced more people to vote for her in the right states and we wouldn’t be facing four years of the National Lampoon’s Presidency.
Voting fraud is almost always done by Republican officials in my experience, which is why they want to pass all of the laws about voters’ IDs – when the fraud is uncovered they’ll claim it was those sneaky voters and not the Republican official with the ballot boxes in his garage…
Here’s an update on the possible election hack by Russia:
Obama under pressure to declassify intelligence reports on Russian vote-rigging claims
Hmmmm. Curious. 😉 😀
The problem with declassifying those reports is that they’ll inevitably compromises sources and methods even if all the actual names are redacted. Those of us in the community know who the actors are, and there’s only a limited set of people the sources could be. Pointing the exact sources out by giving any details that might identify them will render us blind when it comes to Russian cyberhacking.
It would be foolish to reveal any more than absolutely necessary about this. There was an obvious political reason to say what has already been said because of Wiki Leaks, but what real value, other than frustrating a lot of people, is there in identifying suspects that you can’t arrest. We have already told them that they have to changes their methods. Revelations like this screw up the lives of people trying to track these activities. Let’s not provide the ‘bad guys’ with any more details
This just in: Obama to run out the clock.
Yeah. I agree. 🙂 And no surprise RE Obama. *shrug* His track record speaks volumes about his integrity, or lack thereof.
Seems Iceland has an honest Politician! Will wonders never cease? 😉 LOL
Ögmundur Jónasson: The Icelandic minister who refused cooperation with the FBI
This of course should be no surprise to anyone capable of rational thought & an understanding of US Politics. Not to mention the FBI. *shrug*
The article is quite an interesting read I thought with some valid points on various topics. 🙂
For me, the money quote:
“If I had to take sides with either WikiLeaks or the FBI or CIA, I would have no difficulty in choosing: I would be on the side of WikiLeaks.”
and:
“By granting Snowden asylum we would be paying tribute to democracy, to openness and to all the whistleblowers of the world.”
A huge AMEN to both! LOL
I was reminded of this editorial by Greg Palast in Rolling Stone, August 2016:
The GOP’s Stealth War Against Voters
Most of this, we already know of course. I thought it interesting to compare *then* and *now*. Palast was pretty accurate.
And more (from NYT):
Russia Hacked Republican Committee but Kept Data, U.S. Concludes
This isn’t related, but added as an example of the person who will be POTUS:
Donald Trump’s Harassment of a Teenage Girl on Twitter Led to Death and Rape Threats
🙄 👿
Oh… And apparently, he will contunue producing and appearing in “The Apprentice”. So… He obviously takes being Prez seriously!? 😕
T-rump already stated that Mike Pence is gonna do most of the job of Presidentin’ during his term of office, Kryten, so he’s gonna have plenty of time to produce “The Apprentice”. He’s not going to appear in the show though.
The Russians and the FBI seem to have been the margin of victory for the Republicans in this race. And nobody in the Democratic leadership seems to care. What a collection of spineless useless so-called “leaders”. I understand why Obama isn’t raising hell, he’s a lame duck. But nobody else in the Democratic Party is stepping up. They’re displaying all the spine of s squid and all the leadership skills of a shrimp cocktail. The party’s leaders should be raising hell — *LITERAL* hell, like they did in 1876 under similar circumstances — and instead they’re just wandering around in circles flapping their hands uselessly whining “oh woe is me!”. Bah. Useless.
As for Cheetoh Mussolini’s harassment of a teenage girl who asked him a question he didn’t like, red caps are the new brown shirts. All he has to do is tweet against a new target and blam, the red caps come out and do the dirty work for him with plausible deniability. Fascist, much? Yeah, fascist, much.
– Badtux the Leadership-deprived Penguin
The USA has gone TILT! bigtime. Whilst the Dem’s should be pissed as hell, some of the Repugs are up in arms about it. LOL
Republican senators set to probe Russian election rigging claims
Though, even if serious, nothing much will happen anyway. *shrug*
And then… There is this:
Trump has declined many intelligence briefings offered to him according to Senate aide
Lack of Intelligence? Gee… What a surprise! 😆 😈
He is a complete narcissist that believes he knows everything and doesn’t have, or want, to listen to anything anyone has to say. Unless it’s a negative about him. then he uses the nuclear option! Woe betide the Country that disses him!
Kryten, by avoiding the briefings he has ‘plausible deniability’ when he screws up decades long US policies. It is a CEO habit that they only want to know about exceptions, and other people will take care of running things. I sincerely doubt he will attend Cabinet meetings if he holds them.
Drumpf has already had a ‘twit-fit’ over the CIA claims on the hacking. The Dems never get pissed off about anything that is done to them. Maybe if they eschewed civility occasionally, they wouldn’t be viewed as a bunch of wimps.
The Dems passive reaction to oh, everything is causing the mass exodus of people. The Religious Right 1% Club bullied and cheated its way into the POTUS office and no one is saying a word. It like no one wants to stand up for the average American. Just sad.
Yeah, Jennifer. Today’s Democratic “leadership” is just a buncha triangulating soul-less technocrats with the spine of a squid and the leadership skills of a bowl of oatmeal. This is going to cause problems, because if the Republicans are clearly stealing elections and screwing up the country, and the Democrats are just triangulating, triangulating, triangulating, sooner or later things are going to explode. And without leadership, that explosion is likely to be nasty. You thought the ghetto riots of the 1960’s were bad? You ain’t seen nothin’ yet…
That said, I think we’ll be okay here in California, *if* our politicians step up and do what they said they’ll do — resist the Trump administration in every possible way as an abomination against everything we hold dear. We’ll see. But the national Democratic Party? Bah. As useless as tits on a goldfish.
LOL Yeah. BTW, here *Down Under*, we say “As useful as tits on a snake”. LOL That imagery always makes me wince! Ouch! 😉 LOL
It’s not much different here or other Nations today unfortunately. The left is toothless & gutless, the right is all about keeping or increasing the power & wealth of those who control it now. *shrug* At least our left (ALP) have some spine, but they don’t make good use of it. With the right (LNP) constantly doing it’s best to self-destruct, the ALP should have a slum dunk! Yet, they are only polling a few points ahead. Ridiculous. Even now, with the report from the ATO (our IRS) claiming that a full 1/3 of all major companies here paid NO tax at all for the past 2 years, legally! And many of them had an income of over AU$5-12 bln! In terms of complete taxable income in Aus, that represents more than 50% of tax revenues lost!
The whole World is insane. I think I envy John Glenn Jr. *sigh*
slum dunk? *sigh* Oh well, a possibly appropriate Freudian slip! lol *shrug*
And yeah, I know all about *plausible deniabilty* Bryan. 🙂 I worked under that code for years. It’s one reason why Australia is still part of the Commonwealth. 🙂 The Governor (and Crown generally) has a security clearance above that of the Prime Minister. Many things were and are done at that level.
It’s one of the reasons why the Aussies bid to become a *Republic* has never come to fruition. The benefits outweigh the disadvantages.
Welcome to the world that is created by neo-liberalism. The so-called leaders negotiate with themselves to produce the outcome that the right-wing wants, and the right-wing claims that it was never their idea [see Obamacare: begat by the Heritage Foundation and raised by Mitt Romney.]
The Democratic Party was moving forward for a while under the leadership of Howard Dean and his 50 state policies. When Obama was elected, it become a new version of the Committee to re-elect the President.
The Democratic Party doesn’t really exist as an independent organization anymore. Now it serves as a servant of the ‘cult of personality’ of the current senior elected official, rather than an organization to promote left-wing policies.