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Comments on: They Can Take Their Rood And Shove it https://whynow.dumka.us/2006/07/09/they-can-take-their-rood-and-shove-it/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:28:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2006/07/09/they-can-take-their-rood-and-shove-it/comment-page-1/#comment-16729 Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:28:14 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2006/07/09/they-can-take-their-rood-and-shove-it/#comment-16729 This is, of course, one of the major problems of sticking your religion into everyone’s politics – you lose the right to keep others out of your theology. The major religious wars of Europe were a prime example of what happens when religion and politics are welded together and the presence of many of my ancestors in this continent is a result.

If you keep your religion to yourself you tend to avoid centuries of warfare.

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By: Steve Bates https://whynow.dumka.us/2006/07/09/they-can-take-their-rood-and-shove-it/comment-page-1/#comment-16719 Tue, 11 Jul 2006 05:11:52 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2006/07/09/they-can-take-their-rood-and-shove-it/#comment-16719 Bryan, which gates? the ones Rodin depicts so vividly? 🙂

(Sorry; I try to resist entering into discussions of Christian theological matters, because much of the viewpoint is so unlike my own. But this one was just hanging over the plate, begging me to swing…)

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2006/07/09/they-can-take-their-rood-and-shove-it/comment-page-1/#comment-16710 Tue, 11 Jul 2006 00:55:39 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2006/07/09/they-can-take-their-rood-and-shove-it/#comment-16710 Andante, I feel bad for all of the fools who listen to the Falwells and Robertsons and think it’s going to help them through the gates.

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By: andante https://whynow.dumka.us/2006/07/09/they-can-take-their-rood-and-shove-it/comment-page-1/#comment-16701 Mon, 10 Jul 2006 19:18:12 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2006/07/09/they-can-take-their-rood-and-shove-it/#comment-16701 It’s hardly the government’s fault if churches can’t sway people.

I don’t think we’re at the point yet when we wager our souls on the decision of bureaucrats – with the exception of the capitalists-gone-crazy – but we are forced to wager our physical well-being on them.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2006/07/09/they-can-take-their-rood-and-shove-it/comment-page-1/#comment-16699 Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:54:30 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2006/07/09/they-can-take-their-rood-and-shove-it/#comment-16699 The frustration builds up, OWL, and sometime you have to release the pressure.

Karen, if you study history you will repeatedly see that every time church and state mixed, the church loses. The government never becomes moral, the church becomes politicized. To paraphrase John Locke, do you want to wager your immortal soul on the decision of a bureaucrat?

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By: Karen https://whynow.dumka.us/2006/07/09/they-can-take-their-rood-and-shove-it/comment-page-1/#comment-16695 Mon, 10 Jul 2006 15:50:57 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2006/07/09/they-can-take-their-rood-and-shove-it/#comment-16695 Well their most frequent back-assed complaint about this being a *fair issue* to have candidates campaign on and making this a “qualification” they wish to see applied to Ofiiceholders and Public Policy…can called a “Litmus Test” – but – must come out AGAINST these views being foisted on the system from Article VI of our Constitution:

“…The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”

Which is just one tiny reason (among many) as to why I agree Religion IS and ought to Stay a private matter for individuals…but even more so for candidates and officeholder!

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By: oldwhitelady https://whynow.dumka.us/2006/07/09/they-can-take-their-rood-and-shove-it/comment-page-1/#comment-16682 Mon, 10 Jul 2006 03:22:08 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2006/07/09/they-can-take-their-rood-and-shove-it/#comment-16682 Apparently the Christianists complain about discrimination, so no one will notice when they do it. Not that they’ll notice but it is: “Do unto others as you would have them unto you”, not: “Claim that others are doing unto you what you are doing unto them.”

Oh, absolutely! This is exactly how I see them, too. Thanks for posting that!

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