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Comments on: Changing The Rules https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/04/20/changing-the-rules/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:55:10 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/04/20/changing-the-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-25690 Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:55:10 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/04/20/changing-the-rules/#comment-25690 Micheal, there seem to be a lot of people dusting off old concepts and trying to bring them back lately, intent on restoring the “good old days” that never existed. Most of the younger generation in my family is nominally Catholic, but you wouldn’t know it from Mass attendance.

I know that “Catholic” means radically different things in Rochester, New York, San Diego, California, and the Eiffel region of Germany.

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By: Michael https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/04/20/changing-the-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-25689 Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:00:32 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/04/20/changing-the-rules/#comment-25689 Bryan–Yes. And even more so with the ultra-conservative types that JPII and Ratzi the Nazi have been appointing. The pastoral types we used to get didn’t set quite such a store on their status as successors of the Apostles in their dioceses, but most of the new guys in fancy purple drag surely do! And yeah, priests also have a fair amount of leeway as long as they keep their heads down. They have to be concerned about the RCIA (not the Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults, or the mechanism by which adult converts are brought into the Church; I mean the Roman Catholic Intelligence Agency) sitting out in the pews with tape recorders or notepads. People seem a lot more willing to snitch to the bishop these days than they used to. I once heard a priest (newly ordained, so he may have been floundering in flopsweat, which is why I didn’t turn him in to the bish, but did mention it to his pastor) openly espouse heresy in one of his homilies (one of the Christological doctrines declared heretical somewhere back in the fifth century, though I no longer remember which one: might have been Docetism).

Jams–Yes, thanks be to God for “cafeteria Catholics” (which is pretty much all of us). The magisterium tells me I have to listen respectfully to the hierarchy, but also that I’m expected to use my own good judgement in determining the worth of what they say–and if they’re wrong, I’m not bound to obedience.

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By: jams o donnell https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/04/20/changing-the-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-25684 Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:53:03 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/04/20/changing-the-rules/#comment-25684 That is true Michael. Whatever the Pope or the church hierarchy says, it is generally honoured in the breach by the faithful!

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/04/20/changing-the-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-25675 Sun, 22 Apr 2007 02:49:58 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/04/20/changing-the-rules/#comment-25675 I assume that every Bishop is more or less a power onto himself, as has always been the case, and priests in isolated parishes do what suits them until they die or get caught.

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By: Michael https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/04/20/changing-the-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-25674 Sun, 22 Apr 2007 01:47:22 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/04/20/changing-the-rules/#comment-25674 Therein lies one of the great contradictions of the Catholic Church. Popularly believed by outsiders to be, and painted by the hierarchs who have a vested interest in making it appear to be so, as monolithic and marching in lockstep. The reality on the ground is considerably different. Probably always has been, and certainly seems likely to stay that way for the foreseeable future.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/04/20/changing-the-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-25672 Sun, 22 Apr 2007 00:06:22 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/04/20/changing-the-rules/#comment-25672 It was a problem in at least one diocese in 1980 to my own personal knowledge. The case is sealed but the situation was nasty.

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By: Michael https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/04/20/changing-the-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-25670 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 23:21:56 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/04/20/changing-the-rules/#comment-25670 Limbo died as doctrine 40 years ago at the Second Vatican Council–if not before.

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By: jams o donnell https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/04/20/changing-the-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-25669 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 23:11:16 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/04/20/changing-the-rules/#comment-25669 It must be an american issue – I have not seen a sentence written about it here.If I were to ask my parents, both elderly and devout Irish catholics, they would consider the idea of limbo to be pretty absurd!

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/04/20/changing-the-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-25668 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:39:31 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/04/20/changing-the-rules/#comment-25668 I’ve been involved on a personal and a professional level with this issue, but most non-Catholics have never heard of it.

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By: The CultureGhost https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/04/20/changing-the-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-25666 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 18:47:59 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/04/20/changing-the-rules/#comment-25666 Thank you for taking the time to explain this and the possible political motivation behind it.

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