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Comments on: Another Nice Mess https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/05/10/another-nice-mess/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:55:39 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/05/10/another-nice-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-26208 Sat, 12 May 2007 00:59:37 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/05/10/another-nice-mess/#comment-26208 They couldn’t figure out that the Taliban and Saddam were Iran’s biggest worries, and they don’t understand that Iran and al Qaeda are enemies. They didn’t understand that Russia doesn’t want the US involved in the former Soviet Bloc, and they don’t understand the motives of China.

I want someone to explain to me how these people are supposed to be foreign policy/security party, when they don’t have a clue about much of anything that goes on in the world.

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By: Steve Bates https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/05/10/another-nice-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-26207 Sat, 12 May 2007 00:57:04 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/05/10/another-nice-mess/#comment-26207 And now Cheney shows up on one of those carriers, another instance of this insane administration’s pointing its Dick at Iran. What is it with these guys and aircraft carriers? If I understood correctly, one of the carriers was to have been rotated out of that theater for maintenance and crew R&R; I wonder if that will still happen, or if President Cheney will order it to stay to make the threat greater.

It is hardly comforting that we are not the first great nation to be essentially seized by leaders bent on world domination. But with the alleged leadership’s thinking of the Fifties, threatening to use the weaponry of the Sixties, and confronting the state and nonstate actors of the Nineties and Naughties, the stakes for civilization may be a bit higher this time around.

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By: andante https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/05/10/another-nice-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-26206 Fri, 11 May 2007 23:35:53 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/05/10/another-nice-mess/#comment-26206 No such thing as a ‘false flag’ where this administration is concerned. Any little flag will do.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/05/10/another-nice-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-26201 Fri, 11 May 2007 17:39:03 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/05/10/another-nice-mess/#comment-26201 Just to make you day, I saw somewhere that there rumors that al Qaeda is going to attempt some sort of “false flag” operation to set off a war between the US and Iran, which sounds about right. There’s nothing al Qaeda would like better than having its two biggest enemies at each others throats.

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By: Steve Bates https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/05/10/another-nice-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-26192 Fri, 11 May 2007 06:48:18 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/05/10/another-nice-mess/#comment-26192 No. Uh-uh. No Second Cold War, thank you; the first one came quite close enough to becoming glowing hot. And for Mr. Bush, mutually assured destruction is no deterrent; MAD means nothing to the truly mad. (Apologies, Ms. Kane!)

Jonathan Schell once wrote of mutually assured destruction (sorry, I can’t find the quote online, and I don’t own the book, so I’m paraphrasing) that when a man is standing on a window ledge 20 stories above the ground, threatening to jump, we don’t express relief that he hasn’t jumped yet, and we don’t praise ledges as safe places to stand. IMHO, that’s about right.

I was born in a MAD world; I had hoped to live out my life with a less MAD policy from our own leaders or those of the former Soviet states. The current group of nut-cases… theirs and ours… aren’t making matters easier.

OT, I saw via ellroon that there is now a third U.S. carrier group in the Persian Gulf. Again, my fears would be better assuaged if we had another Executive branch.

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