Comments on: Just Following The Rules

By: whig

whig — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 05:34:46 +0000

You can’t win in their own game, they control all the angles, including the ability to dictate media coverage.

By: Bryan

Bryan — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:44:44 +0000

That’s what I’m saying Whig: he’s lying and getting away with it because people are not asking for proof. He shouldn’t be allowed to make the claims without evidence to back them up. The media parrots the claims, and never challenges them. You have to establish the fact that these people lie.

When you present contrary evidence the media turns it into their standard “he said/she said” paradigm. Simply go after them for their lack of evidence and establish the fact that they are liars. That’s how the “game” is played with the media. That’s why Al Gore is always framed as a liar and exaggerator by the press.

By: whig

whig — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 06:50:46 +0000

That isn’t the way to understand this at all, he isn’t claiming to have studies at all. He’s just blowing smoke and talking about killer pot.

If you would like studies on behalf of my own proposition that cannabis cannot be fatally overdosed no matter the potency, I will be happy to provide them.

By: Bryan

Bryan — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 04:16:33 +0000

The real point is, there is no basis to accept any of the claims made, which is in line with most of the claims by the current administration. This is a DEA riff on the yellowcake uranium claims.

The only reasonable response is: who did the research and was it peer-reviewed. If not, it is an opinion, not a fact.

By: whig

whig — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 03:05:39 +0000

The deception undergirding the rest is that cannabis is capable of causing death.

I don’t want to argue about how strong the pot is, because it doesn’t matter if it was 3x as strong or 10x as strong, people titrate their dose to achieve desired effect and the only consequence of taking too much is you might take a nap.

By: Bryan

Bryan — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 21:47:20 +0000

Whig, I left law enforcement behind when I was having issues concerning my personal anger management. When you can’t be sure you’ll follow the rules, it’s time to leave.

As for that DEA statement, you are allowing them to define terms. I would have attacked the statement based on the basic evidence standard – it is based on facts not in evidence, i.e. he is not a chemist, or physician and is making statements that require research and expert testimony to be admissible. The strength claim, 200% increase, as compared to what – the stuff that grows wild in Nebraska? The addiction claim is based on what evidence? There are people “addicted” to blogging.

A badge is evidence of a knowledge of some laws and procedures, not a knowledge of pharmacology and psychology.

Actually this guy sounds like a lobbyist campaigning for more funding – a new threat that is going to require more money to combat. I used to be part of those battles defending my budget against raids by the guys in patrol.

You want to take DEA out of the picture, go with rate of return on investment. Make them prove that what they do is worth the money spent. Attack their claims as funding requests, not law enforcement analysis. They get support from local agencies they provide funding to, not agencies that believe in their mission.

If you look at the arguments put forward, they will inevitably contain a statement about lacking the resources to combat something. They are funding requests.

By: whig

whig — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:29:46 +0000

Bryan, have you considered joining LEAP, Law Enforcement Against Prohibition?

By: Bryan

Bryan — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 05:14:31 +0000

Whig, I really hate DEA. They corrupt good people, and create a lot of unnecessary violence. They are a paramilitary group, not law enforcement. They have no great regard for the law or facts.

By: whig

whig — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 04:26:22 +0000

Bryan, I hope you won’t mind me copying your reply to Cannabis News. I think there might be an interesting exchange of views.

By: Bryan

Bryan — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 04:00:19 +0000

Hipparchia, the Chicago PD and Al Capone should yield more than enough reading on the subject. Capone had a winter place over in Niceville, so there’s local history involved. They would bring in rum from Cuba and send it north.

You don’t want to look too closely at the source of money used to develop Destin.