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Comments on: Union? https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/06/union/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Wed, 08 Aug 2007 03:56:49 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/06/union/comment-page-1/#comment-28328 Wed, 08 Aug 2007 03:56:49 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/06/union/#comment-28328 Full disclosure, I’ve been a member of a trade union, a craft union, and professional unions. The first two were based on my specific job and employer, but the professional unions based on my career unrelated to a specific job. That’s why I felt is was a more appropriate name.

Perhaps, on reflection, guild might be more appropriate, but a guild implies standards, and I’m not sure that I would want to go that way.

The thing about blogs is that on any given day I have musicians, chemists, physicists, lawyers, historians, economists, IT people, artists, architects, and multiple other specialists that I read and interact with. I have people from all over the world dropping by my little patch. That’s a massive amount of experience and knowledge available, and I wouldn’t want to restrict it.

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By: whig https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/06/union/comment-page-1/#comment-28323 Wed, 08 Aug 2007 03:20:45 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/06/union/#comment-28323 I agree, Bryan.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/06/union/comment-page-1/#comment-28319 Wed, 08 Aug 2007 01:52:12 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/06/union/#comment-28319 I think we are paying more attention to words than to meaning. There’s a lot of power and wisdom in e pluribus unum, and recently to Franklin’s warning that: “We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.”

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By: hipparchia https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/06/union/comment-page-1/#comment-28318 Wed, 08 Aug 2007 01:20:59 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/06/union/#comment-28318 the hobbyist blogger i most admire.

there’s a lot to be said for attaining his degree of professionalism, and i’ve considered aiming for something like it myself, but then i’d feel constrained in what i want to say at times. it’d be a difficult tradeoff: shape up and fly straight and get mutual assistance, or wing it on your own, free as a bird.

i dunno, any guild that would have me probably isn’t worth joining. then again, we have bill o’reilly, robert novak, rush limbaugh, … as examples of a professionalism that i can never hope to aspire to.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/06/union/comment-page-1/#comment-28301 Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:36:48 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/06/union/#comment-28301 Hipparchia, I can’t see that standards would be anything but options, like the various certifications you can test for in IT. If the standards are formally expressed, it serves as a benchmark for outsiders to make judgments. That would be something that would only be of value to the hardcore political types who already function as journalists without the general acceptance.

Whig, I think it is multi-layered, with the first layer being mutual assistance in a formalized structure. In addition to things that benefit from numbers, like insurance, it could also act as a clearing house for problems. Until the process is further along, there’s no real way of knowing what it will become.

Elayne, you are a professional at ComicMix and a “hobbyist” at Pen Elayne. To be worth anything, a union/guild has to truly be voluntary. There are people who only view political blogs as serious, but I spend time on blogs that cover a lot of different areas, just as I subscribed to a lot of different news groups a few years ago. If you are adding to the knowledge base, on whatever topic, and doing it via a blog, you’re a blogger. If Peggy Noonan can be a journalist, I don’t see why Meg at Cute Overload can’t be a blogger.

I am interpreting “professional” as simply referring to blogging, i.e. the “profession” or process of blogging as a distinct activity or skill, and nothing more. In precise terms, Alexander Graham Bell and Thomas Edison were “hobbyists,” as were most of those now considered scientists in the 19th century.

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By: Elayne Riggs https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/06/union/comment-page-1/#comment-28292 Tue, 07 Aug 2007 12:42:18 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/06/union/#comment-28292 If bloggers aren’t professional (i.e., if we’re hobbyists), how can we have a professional organization?

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By: whig https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/06/union/comment-page-1/#comment-28289 Tue, 07 Aug 2007 08:14:58 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/06/union/#comment-28289 We might wind up recreating a republic if we go far enough. If that’s a good idea or not, I offer no opinion at the moment.

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By: hipparchia https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/06/union/comment-page-1/#comment-28285 Tue, 07 Aug 2007 06:49:01 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/06/union/#comment-28285 i’d sure like to be able to get health insurance, but i’m not sure i want to live up to professional standards.

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By: whig https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/06/union/comment-page-1/#comment-28282 Tue, 07 Aug 2007 05:50:40 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/06/union/#comment-28282 A bloggers’ guild seems a good idea to me.

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