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Comments on: Logistical Nightmare https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/10/logistical-nightmare/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Sun, 12 Aug 2007 18:30:09 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/10/logistical-nightmare/comment-page-1/#comment-28543 Sun, 12 Aug 2007 18:30:09 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/10/logistical-nightmare/#comment-28543 Whig, the troops are in “Fort Apache” mode shooting at anything that moves, not fighting an enemy. They need to withdrawn to reduce the number of bystanders dying as well as their own deaths.

Jill, it will be a long time before the habitat recovers. The condors at least have the ability to fly away.

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By: Cookie Jill https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/10/logistical-nightmare/comment-page-1/#comment-28539 Sun, 12 Aug 2007 17:32:09 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/10/logistical-nightmare/#comment-28539 I’ve been back there. You are right on the terrain. That’s why it’s such a good place for the Condors to be released into. Not alot of humanfolk to shoot at them because you just can’t get there from anywhere.

We’re worried about what this fire will do or has done to the critters and the Condors who make that part of our county home.

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By: whig https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/10/logistical-nightmare/comment-page-1/#comment-28519 Sun, 12 Aug 2007 04:50:28 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/10/logistical-nightmare/#comment-28519 Who are we fighting now? I don’t think we even know. AQI? Please.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/10/logistical-nightmare/comment-page-1/#comment-28514 Sun, 12 Aug 2007 02:57:51 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/10/logistical-nightmare/#comment-28514 Roger, that, Whig. We are only making matters worse by hanging around.

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By: whig https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/10/logistical-nightmare/comment-page-1/#comment-28507 Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:43:14 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/10/logistical-nightmare/#comment-28507 What war? The Iraqi and Iranian governments are now united. Let’s go home.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/10/logistical-nightmare/comment-page-1/#comment-28505 Sat, 11 Aug 2007 22:09:59 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/10/logistical-nightmare/#comment-28505 If you have ever done any back country hiking with a topographical map or aerial photograph and looked at the area involved you would understand why there are no roads – there are almost no flat surfaces to put a road on. That area is on the border between hiking and mountain climbing. There are definitely going to be mud slides when the rain finally comes.

Down in San Diego you can usually control the fires on the mesas, but if they start in one of the ravines, they race along the ravine and light off mesas on both sides. I didn’t anything that looked like a mesa, only a series of ridges and ravines.

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By: Cookie Jill https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/10/logistical-nightmare/comment-page-1/#comment-28503 Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:06:04 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/10/logistical-nightmare/#comment-28503 I went to a town hall meeting last night that the firefighters gave. I absolutely commend these guys for getting information out and quickly.

Many of the folks in the auditorium had never been back to the “back country” and were blaming the firefighters for making a 80% contained fire go back to a 68% contained fire. The firefighters explained in great detail how they determine the percentage of containment and how the 20% from the 80% containment area earlier on was literally sheer cliffs of excessively dry vegetation and absolutely no way to get to it to battle it.

The terrain back there is tough, rough and dry, dry, dry. And, of course, to make things “handier”, no roads.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/10/logistical-nightmare/comment-page-1/#comment-28486 Sat, 11 Aug 2007 04:07:23 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/10/logistical-nightmare/#comment-28486 Looking at the maps the problem would seem to be the terrain – they can’t get equipment in, or protect exit routes for the firefighters.

Backfires may be the only way of stopping it.

If they start using ocean water they’ll have the same problem we have with hurricanes – the salt kills vegetation after the fact and increases the fuel available.

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By: Cookie Jill https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/10/logistical-nightmare/comment-page-1/#comment-28479 Sat, 11 Aug 2007 00:13:06 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/08/10/logistical-nightmare/#comment-28479 Would Sherman have Waterbombing planes? If so, send him on down.

http://zacafire.blogspot.com/2007/08/firebombers.html

The Zaca Fire is set to burn about 25% of our county. they have decided they can’t control the fire so will try a major burn back.

The ocean option is looking better and better.

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