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Comments on: Florida For Dodd https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/20/florida-for-dodd/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Mon, 22 Oct 2007 03:20:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/20/florida-for-dodd/comment-page-1/#comment-30567 Mon, 22 Oct 2007 03:20:40 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/20/florida-for-dodd/#comment-30567 None of them have been leaders on the FEMA front. Talk is all they have provided, and there’s a Repub in the Louisiana governor’s mansion as a result.

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By: hipparchia https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/20/florida-for-dodd/comment-page-1/#comment-30565 Mon, 22 Oct 2007 02:38:36 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/20/florida-for-dodd/#comment-30565 but america is a christian country! [ouch. it hurts me to say that, even in jest.]

looks like dodd’s not so good for the hurricane-prone [update 2]

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/20/florida-for-dodd/comment-page-1/#comment-30553 Sun, 21 Oct 2007 16:30:57 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/20/florida-for-dodd/#comment-30553 It’s more than a little annoying that we have to start reviewing candidates based on whether we think they will support and defend the Constitution, that was once a given. We have become a banana republic and you have to wonder when we have our first military coup.

The Christianists and neocons have a lot to answer for, and that can’t be put off. someone should have checked to see if the “values” being invoked by “values voters” were American values.

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By: hipparchia https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/20/florida-for-dodd/comment-page-1/#comment-30547 Sun, 21 Oct 2007 06:17:09 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/20/florida-for-dodd/#comment-30547 i’ve been looking at those, the problems sirota points out. they’re mostly waaaaaay out of my [very limited] areas of expertise, so the best i can come up with so far is that he and hillary clinton look to be about equally corporate-ocrats, with dodd looking better on constitutional issues.

i want to like clinton, because i’d like to have a woman president. i want to like obama, because i’d like to have a non-white president. i really really really like edwards for his emphasis on poverty, his changing to public campaign financing, and his vow to cut off health insurance for all the government if universal coverage isn’t passed within 6 months.

unfortunately, it looks like we’re never going to get around to impeaching either bush or cheney, and if that’s the case, i think constitutional issues probably will have to trump all others. i’m extremely angry that i may be forced to choose a president based solely on whether or not it looks like they really will uphold the constitution.

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By: Steve Bates https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/20/florida-for-dodd/comment-page-1/#comment-30546 Sun, 21 Oct 2007 05:45:57 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/20/florida-for-dodd/#comment-30546 While I really like the idea of a uniform single primary date for all states, many say it raises constitutional issues. But I thought the Supremes established in Bush v. Gore that states really don’t, after all, control their own electoral processes, or any judicial rulings regarding them. In light of the same (possibly dubious) 14th Amendment argument by Scalia, why shouldn’t a uniform primary date be established, as a matter of equal protection?

Dodd has enough other problems that I would vote for him at best reluctantly. But constitutional issues may trump all others. There’s a lot to think about here.

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By: hipparchia https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/20/florida-for-dodd/comment-page-1/#comment-30545 Sun, 21 Oct 2007 05:45:49 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/20/florida-for-dodd/#comment-30545 i like the single national primary date idea myself. but then, i also like the idea of campaigns being publicly funded. pie in the sky wishes, both of them.

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By: hipparchia https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/20/florida-for-dodd/comment-page-1/#comment-30544 Sun, 21 Oct 2007 05:40:30 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/20/florida-for-dodd/#comment-30544 echoing bryan, i too think you should write the post, jack. the more viewpoints, the merrier. besides, if we do end up with a president dodd, then it won’t be all my fault.

although i have to say, given the [imperfect] information i ahve about the two of them so far, i’d rather have a president dodd than a president clinton. but i have until jan 29 to make up my mind and there’s no telling what’s going to happen in the next 3.5 months.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/20/florida-for-dodd/comment-page-1/#comment-30543 Sun, 21 Oct 2007 05:34:05 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/20/florida-for-dodd/#comment-30543 That’s only south of the Mouse, Whig. We still use mark/sense ballots up north.

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By: whig https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/20/florida-for-dodd/comment-page-1/#comment-30542 Sun, 21 Oct 2007 05:28:07 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/20/florida-for-dodd/#comment-30542 Isn’t it up to ES&S how Florida votes? Or am I still missing something?

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/20/florida-for-dodd/comment-page-1/#comment-30540 Sun, 21 Oct 2007 03:35:09 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/20/florida-for-dodd/#comment-30540 The problem is that the party can’t unilaterally determine a primary date, the states have individual laws that mandate primaries. The only way this can work is for the parties to start running their own primaries on their own dimes.

Florida Democrats don’t control the legislature, the Republicans changed the date.

I would rather see regional primaries that rotate, or a single national primary date.

Another option would be to actually elect real delegates, one from each congressional district who, along with the the top two officials from the state party, would constitute the party’s “electoral college” and let them sit through the campaign ads and debates and then select the nominee – a real convention.

The Dodd idea was Hipparchia’s. I’m just dittoing.

Write the post. Having lived on the West Coast I know the aggravation of being ignored, as the election was usually decided before the polls closed in California.

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