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Comments on: Syria? https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/26/syria/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:45:58 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/26/syria/comment-page-1/#comment-30724 Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:45:58 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/26/syria/#comment-30724 AIPAC is really the Likud in the US and has little to do with the desires of the majority of Israelis. Sharon just created this Potemkin party because of the loss of support for Likud policies.

Hipparchia, there isn’t enough resolution to show the goats.

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By: hipparchia https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/26/syria/comment-page-1/#comment-30720 Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:29:32 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/26/syria/#comment-30720 oh, i dunno. it compares pretty favorably with one or two cow pastures i’ve flown into or out of.

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By: whig https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/26/syria/comment-page-1/#comment-30719 Sat, 27 Oct 2007 07:13:15 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/26/syria/#comment-30719 And yes, I know nominally Israel isn’t Likud now. Just like nominally the Democrats control the legislature here.

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By: whig https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/26/syria/comment-page-1/#comment-30718 Sat, 27 Oct 2007 07:12:25 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/26/syria/#comment-30718 The relationship of Israel to the United States is that while the Republicans control this country Likud will control that theirs. The alliance is too important for it to be otherwise, because the Bush administration would snub a non-Likud Israel.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/26/syria/comment-page-1/#comment-30711 Sat, 27 Oct 2007 04:34:25 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/26/syria/#comment-30711 Oops, sorry, doesn’t get it when you are dropping 250 pound bombs [and larger] on people, because bombs don’t discriminate. This preemptive war crap has to cease immediately. Since Syria has signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty, all you have to do is drop a dime for a call to IAEA and you will find out what’s going on. Of course, Israel can’t do it, because it never signed the treaty, but the US can. It’s like the WMDs, they don’t want the facts, they want the excuse.

Hipparchia, it depends on the exact ordnance that was used, and the structure of the building, but if you assume it was a warehouse, it probably got hit with 2 to 4,000 pounds of explosives, so almost nothing would be left. If it was a munitions storage facility, it would have pretty thick walls, but a light roof, to direct any blast upwards, so there should have been large chunks of concrete left. A nuclear containment building is even thicker so a lot of the structure would have survived with gaping holes.

What’s missing is the photos of the site immediately following the raid, so you could see how much of the structure was left standing, if any.

That “airstrip” is really impressive – a runway, no taxiways, no buildings, and not much in the way of roads. Not quite as improved as the “Navarre International Airport” that the local banner towing aircraft use.

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By: hipparchia https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/26/syria/comment-page-1/#comment-30710 Sat, 27 Oct 2007 03:55:05 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/26/syria/#comment-30710 how big a crater would the bomb[s] leave? they’ve carved away more of the hillside since the pre-bomb photo.

if the bomber[s] did a thorough enough job, about all the cleanup you’d need to do is shove the rubble around and scrape some dirt over it [whch is about what it looks like they did]. assuming all you planned to rebuild is a warehouse, that should be good enough.

if they’re planning to build a nuclear plant, one would hope they’re being a bit more thorough. either way, 7 weeks seems more than long enough to clear the spot.

the airfield in that report — it’s about the right size for a small airstrip [like the local flying clubs have around here], but that’s all they’ve got there [no infrastructure]. maybe it’s going to grow up to be an airfield someday.

google earth is the worst [best] timesuck evah.

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By: Jack K., The Grumpy Forester https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/26/syria/comment-page-1/#comment-30709 Sat, 27 Oct 2007 03:43:28 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/10/26/syria/#comment-30709 …well, yes, we should probably know the answer to that question before actually sending bomb-laden aircraft into other soverign airspace, but – as Turkey is threatening to demonstrate – 09/11/01 may not have changed everything as much as 03/20/03. The United States established that it is acceptable to take offensive action against another nation because of a perceived, unproven, possible threat rather than the existence of an actual demonstrable threat to national security. There is no longer any deference to the concept of “just war”…

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