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Comments on: Don’t Send Us To Jail https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/11/11/dont-send-us-to-jail/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:02:47 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Cookie Jill https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/11/11/dont-send-us-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-31291 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:02:47 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/11/11/dont-send-us-to-jail/#comment-31291 Mr. Kerr…meet Poncho…Poncho…meet….

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/11/11/dont-send-us-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-31282 Tue, 13 Nov 2007 04:47:32 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/11/11/dont-send-us-to-jail/#comment-31282 I think you are cursed with a common name. As near as I can tell they are including aliases in this stupid list. The rule for professionals when it comes to aliases is to use a common name that produces so many hits in a records check that it won’t be obvious who you are supposed to be.

Even with out that problem, the State Department is so understaffed and overwhelmed with passport requests you need to apply a year in advance to be sure you’ll get one, even if you aren’t on a list, and assume that they will lose your application at least once.

These people pass mandates, and then fail to plan for the workload those mandates will generate. They are totally incompetent and are in power for another 14 months.

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By: Steve Bates https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/11/11/dont-send-us-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-31281 Tue, 13 Nov 2007 04:26:46 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/11/11/dont-send-us-to-jail/#comment-31281 As noted in an earlier thread, I’d like to go visit American friends living in Amsterdam. That would entail renewing my passport and boarding an airplane. (It’s too far to swim.) These days, I’m not certain whether I’d be allowed to do either.

If you don’t have anything to hide… you nonetheless probably have things you’d just as soon not shout to the wider world. Privacy is not the same as secrecy. Privacy is normal, not malicious. Privacy is a right.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/11/11/dont-send-us-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-31279 Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:36:55 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/11/11/dont-send-us-to-jail/#comment-31279 That list is a real winner – I personally know three different Edward Kennedys. What is the point?

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By: Cookie Jill https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/11/11/dont-send-us-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-31278 Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:28:52 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/11/11/dont-send-us-to-jail/#comment-31278 Actually, Senator Kennedy found out he is on the no-fly list.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/11/11/dont-send-us-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-31276 Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:34:57 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/11/11/dont-send-us-to-jail/#comment-31276 Add their names to the “No-Fly” list, send them to Europe and let the law take its course.

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By: Cookie Jill https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/11/11/dont-send-us-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-31272 Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:02:31 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/11/11/dont-send-us-to-jail/#comment-31272 These folks are using the Constitution as toilet paper. They need to go to jail. Let them try out Gitmo.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/11/11/dont-send-us-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-31267 Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:46:24 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/11/11/dont-send-us-to-jail/#comment-31267 Roger that, Badtux. I know I don’t have any privacy if I don’t put curtains on the windows, but I have a right to hang the curtains. If they think it’s so important they can add a check off box on the tax forms saying something like “it’s fine by me if the government wants to snoop in all of my affairs” and see what kind of response they get.

I’m sick and tired of having to “opt out” of all of these programs that “share” [sell, by any other name] my personal information. I want to at least get a royalty.

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/11/11/dont-send-us-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-31266 Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:37:03 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/11/11/dont-send-us-to-jail/#comment-31266 Gosh darn it, might as well re-think the rest of those rights in the Bill of Rights too while we’re at it. Free speech? Objectively pro-terrorist. Freedom of assembly? Too scary in the modern world. Right to an attorney? If you want an attorney you must be a terrorist so obviously if you support the right to an attorney you’re a supporter of terrorism. Etc.

Let’s face it, these fuckheads aren’t going to be happy until the Constitution is a flaming pile of ashes and they’re running the country as a dictatorship. That’s what everything they say points to in the end. They don’t want to re-think privacy. They want to re-think the entire Bill of Rights out of existence and have gotten a darn good start at it.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/11/11/dont-send-us-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-31264 Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:14:22 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/11/11/dont-send-us-to-jail/#comment-31264 Hipparchia, CNN has been running one of their polls and it’s running 60/40 against giving up privacy for security reasons. The 40% who think it’s OK are troubling, but that includes the hardcore supporters of the Hedgemony.

It doesn’t buy us anything, and isn’t making us any safer.

Well, we know that if you don’t make an effort nothing you do on the ‘Net is encrypted, FM, and I don’t trust government or business to protect information because they don’t pay any penalty when they screw up. Laws on the books mean nothing if they aren’t enforced. How much jail time did any of the people who outed a covert CIA agent do? Zero. Don’t tell me about penalties for illegal disclosure unless you can show me where you have actually done something about it.

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