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Comments on: YES!!! https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/12/21/yes-2/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Sat, 22 Dec 2007 07:02:45 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/12/21/yes-2/comment-page-1/#comment-32320 Sat, 22 Dec 2007 07:02:45 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/12/21/yes-2/#comment-32320 There’s no doubt that price enters into every decision, but I just had to locate NiCads to replace some bad batteries in my outside solar lighting and they are more expensive than the NiMH that I have in abundance. The price is reflected in the volume. The price will drop if the volume is there.

I’ll take care of it for you Andante, but it’s OK to scream on the ‘Net.

It as always been a matter of storage, Michael, and this looks very good.

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By: Michael https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/12/21/yes-2/comment-page-1/#comment-32319 Sat, 22 Dec 2007 06:58:47 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/12/21/yes-2/#comment-32319 Maybe something like this will help.

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By: Michael https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/12/21/yes-2/comment-page-1/#comment-32318 Sat, 22 Dec 2007 06:46:22 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/12/21/yes-2/#comment-32318 If both collection and storage can be improved by comparable factors we have effectively unlimited energy at our disposal.

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By: andante https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/12/21/yes-2/comment-page-1/#comment-32317 Sat, 22 Dec 2007 06:40:10 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/12/21/yes-2/#comment-32317 I am boldly going on with attempting to gift-wrap innumerable gifts. Needless to say, I’m crankier than usual, and my back hurts from bending over all that mess. Bah, humbug!!!

(Please feel free to correct my bolded mess, Bryan)

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/12/21/yes-2/comment-page-1/#comment-32316 Sat, 22 Dec 2007 06:29:23 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/12/21/yes-2/#comment-32316 The biggest issue will be whether these batteries can be made affordably. The Prius uses NiMH batteries mostly because lIon batteriers are half the weight for the same amount of power, but are ten times the price.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/12/21/yes-2/comment-page-1/#comment-32308 Sat, 22 Dec 2007 04:55:42 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/12/21/yes-2/#comment-32308 Actually the process as described is remarkable simple, and so logical you wonder why people didn’t think of it before, but then, much of genius is stating what should be obvious, and becomes obvious when you say it aloud.

I fear you are right, Andante. If you manufacture batteries based on this break through in mass and tie them to even the current solar roof tiles that are available, most single family homes can exist off the grid. The electrical utilities will not like that eventuality.

I don’t know if you were aware of it, Steve, but for years IBM bought up patents for new technology to bury it if it affected a core IBM product line.

The other concern is that there aren’t any US manufacturers left who can build the batteries, and China may get the technology by default. Sony is an obvious company to bring these batteries into production.

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By: Steve Bates https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/12/21/yes-2/comment-page-1/#comment-32304 Sat, 22 Dec 2007 04:23:12 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/12/21/yes-2/#comment-32304 Cool! (It must be that, too, if it can handle such an energy density without blowing up.)

andante is right, of course. (andante, where have you decided to boldly go?) Brought to market? Feh. I’ll wager the Bushists attempt to classify the technology as a matter of Heimatsicherheit, assigning manufacturing rights to a certain defense contractor… and then do absolutely nothing with it.

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By: andante https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/12/21/yes-2/comment-page-1/#comment-32300 Sat, 22 Dec 2007 03:25:03 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/12/21/yes-2/#comment-32300 This is REALLY exciting!

The implications for solar energy alone are endless.

No doubt Big Oil and King Coal will fight it to the death.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/12/21/yes-2/comment-page-1/#comment-32294 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 22:24:12 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/12/21/yes-2/#comment-32294 Storage has always been the problem, and this looks really good as a solution. It solves a couple of problems with vehicles, weight and available power. A lot of power is need just to move the batteries, so the ten fold increase in storage will see another increase in less wasted energy.

Things are definitely looking up, if these things can be brought to market.

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By: fallenmonk https://whynow.dumka.us/2007/12/21/yes-2/comment-page-1/#comment-32289 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 20:40:57 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2007/12/21/yes-2/#comment-32289 Not a shipstone but very good news indeed. With the latest advances in thin film solar cells and wind power we might be getting there. May be practical for even home use.

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