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Comments on: Newspapers https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/02/03/newspapers/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:56:57 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/02/03/newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-33862 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:56:57 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2008/02/03/newspapers/#comment-33862 Just about everyone who cares has figured that out, DC, and I am really sad to report it, because I remember a time when it wasn’t like this, when there was fact checking, when there was investigative reporting, when Presidents couldn’t ignore the law.

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By: distributorcap https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/02/03/newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-33861 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:38:33 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2008/02/03/newspapers/#comment-33861 bryan

i work in a newsroom (i am not a journalist) and one day i will write about what really goes on — it makes me sick sometimes.

news is now fluff that connects the commercials

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/02/03/newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-33835 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:31:17 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2008/02/03/newspapers/#comment-33835 The shareholders don’t care about the product as long as they make their money, so what can you expect? The only market anyone seems to pay attention to any more is the stock market, and the only product too many companies have is their stock.

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/02/03/newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-33832 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:49:16 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2008/02/03/newspapers/#comment-33832 Well, the Murky does carry the Friday Fry’s ads, which are the only *other* reason I still subscribe to the Murky. Since they got taken over by MediaNews, their already-low journalistic standards have plummeted as they’ve gone through wave after wave of layoffs in the pressroom (both reporters and copy editors). So I learned about, e.g., the doings around Microsoft and Yahoo, via the Internet, not via the Murky…

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/02/03/newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-33826 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:06:26 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2008/02/03/newspapers/#comment-33826 The locals are the only hope for the survival of journalism, Map. The big papers have all become just an excuse for advertising.

The Mercury News was once required reading in the IT business as they carries stories about the Valley. At least newsprint can be recycled. I stopped BYTE when I could no longer find any stories among the ads and the local recycling stopped taking magazines.

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/02/03/newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-33822 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:42:12 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2008/02/03/newspapers/#comment-33822 It’s to the point where the only reason I subscribe to my local rag (the San Jose Murky News, the “Murky” describing their journalistic efforts — I mean, we’re talking about folks who put a *LOST CAT STORY* on page 1!) is the comics page. Well, that and the fact that newsprint makes a great medium for putting under my motorcycle in the garage so that I don’t get oil on the pavement from the chain or while changing oil.

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By: mapaghimagsik https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/02/03/newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-33815 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:18:01 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2008/02/03/newspapers/#comment-33815 Radio has long been atrocious, but newspapers are generally sliding downhill. My local paper has bright spots (both papers, actually) though the paper for my metropolitan center is sadly horrid, relying on past glories to try and get more subscriptions.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/02/03/newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-33812 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:10:35 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2008/02/03/newspapers/#comment-33812 The sad fact is that most newspapers are relying on the Associated Press for national news, so there is no diversity. While they never seem to run out of money for opinion people, reporters are marginalized, and as media consolidation increases, there are fewer reporters every day.

Access to information is decreasing every day while the conduits for it expand. Why read a newspaper with no news in it? Everything is being run as a corporation, not a business, and few people understand the difference.

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By: ellroon https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/02/03/newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-33810 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:37:06 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2008/02/03/newspapers/#comment-33810 I still subscribe to the Los Angeles Times, but no longer read it from cover to cover. I get most of my news from the net, which means I read other newspapers from around the world: the AP, CBC of Canada, Spiegel Online, Asia Times Online, BBC, The Guardian, al Jazeera etc etc …. in short, papers which support real journalism and allow me to read and compare. I no longer accept any one paper’s viewpoint but google it.

It’s amazing what we DON’T hear or read in the US media nowadays, isn’t it?

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By: John B. https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/02/03/newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-33804 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:05:56 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/2008/02/03/newspapers/#comment-33804 Bryan,

As you say, the same applies (with a vengeance) to radio. It is absolutely execrable; and in few places is it worse than in north Florida. Between the holy roller preachers, crazed right-wing ranters, and the approved play lists which may as well be aired (and often are) by a computer stuffed in some closet in St. Louis, there’s nothing on the AM dial but dreck. The only local signals that save the FM dial around here are university affiliates WUWF-FM (Pensacola) and WHIL-FM (Mobile).

The Reagan administration bears a large part of the blame for eviscerating the Fairness Doctrine and undermining cross-ownership and media concentration rules. But Congress, the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration have much to answer for, too.

As Ben Bagdikian says, the result is a “crisis in democracy.” But you won’t see the media mentioning it, much less reporting about it in depth or naming the names. It’s just too profitable to keep the public in ignorance.

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