Comments on: Lapel Pin Reporting

By: Bryan

Bryan — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:05:36 +0000

A lapel pin proves you have no concern for your clothes. All of the insignia you have to put on a military uniform really messes it up. The pins tear the fabric unless you have a cut button hole, and then they fray the button hole.

Most pins are made with pot-metal which will contain lead and other heavy metals that are pollutants. Red and White enamels almost always are lead-based. The things are toxic.

A flag pin is a pretty good indicator you didn’t serve in the military, or you would have some type of military pin to put there. It also indicates that you don’t belong to any service organizations, or you would have their pin on your lapel. So, essentially, if you have a flag pin on your lapel, you are probably a lazy, shiftless ne’er-do-well who has never amounted to much as a human being, but want to deflect the criticism.

By: Michael

Michael — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:48:09 +0000

I think the whole lapel pin thing is a coded genteel way of calling Barack Obama unpatriotic. Nobody cares if John McCain wears a lapel pin. Nobody cares if Hillary Clinton wears a lapel pin. It’s just a right wing smear.

By: Cookie Jill

Cookie Jill — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:22:03 +0000

The question I want asked re: that stoooopid lapel pin stuff….

“Where was your pin made and have you had it tested for lead levels?”

By: Michael

Michael — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 06:45:33 +0000

Rove’s comment:

“In the wake of 9/11, conservatives believed it was time to unleash the might and power of the United States military against the Taliban; in the wake of 9/11 liberals believed it was time to submit a petition.” Rove continued: “I am not joking. Submitting a petition is precisely what MoveOn.org did. It was a petition imploring the powers that be to ‘use moderation and restraint in responding to the terrorist attacks against the United States.’ ”

MoveOn’s response:

After Rove’s comments, MoveOn released a statement saying flatly, “MoveOn did not oppose the U.S. military action in Afghanistan.” And in an interview with the Washington Post, reporter Dan Balz wrote that MoveOn political chief Eli Pariser “disputed Rove’s characterization of the petition calling for moderation and restraint, saying that the petition was a personal project before he was affiliated with MoveOn and that it was not on the group’s Web site at the time of the Afghanistan war.”

By: Michael

Michael — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 06:41:04 +0000

This is fully hashed out in the Byron York article on NRO which tries to make the exact same case you are making, but as you may note if you read it, MoveOn.org has been saying that this is a mischaracterization of their position — since 2005. A petition for restraint is not the same as opposition to the use of force in Afghanistan.

And I know you’re bitter about the Florida situation, and hope that gets resolved before the convention.

By: Bryan

Bryan — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 04:59:45 +0000

Then why don’t you look at the Commonsense article which says essentially the same damn thing, or do your own bloody searching, because I was a member of MoveOn at the time and they were advocating a non-military approach, while Rove’s claim was they didn’t want to do anything.

I frankly couldn’t care less because they have already screwed up so thoroughly that they have lost the November election, and Florida isn’t even going to get a vote.

By: Michael

Michael — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 04:31:03 +0000

The Wikipedia item you quote is sourced to York, Bryon. "Rove Was Right about MoveOn", National Review, 2005-06-24. Retrieved on 2007-09-25. I disbelieve.