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Comments on: I Have Questions https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/04/25/i-have-questions/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:05:01 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/04/25/i-have-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-35897 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:05:01 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4099#comment-35897 I think they would like the nuclear power, like everyone else in the region without oil, so they wouldn’t have to suck up to the oil countries. Unfortunately, the rest of the world can’t imagine that “these people” would settle for something as straight-forward as a reliable electric system. In a lot of places animals on treadmills are still powering the pumps for irrigation. While I think that solar and wind would be a better solution, they want something they know will work.

If they build a nuclear power plant, it will automatically be assumed that they want nuclear weapons, and they will, to protect themselves from the crazies who think they are crazy.

Israel is going to be the key for the real crazies in Iran getting around the fatwa against nuclear weapons. The constant threats are going to be the excuse used to undermine the current religious prohibition by the Supreme Leader. Attacking Iran will guarantee they build nuclear weapons for defense.

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/04/25/i-have-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-35894 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 23:00:31 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4099#comment-35894 Well, the Bush Administration is proof that evil and stupid can come in the same package, but point taken. Bashar al-Asad is an opthamologist, not an idiot — no way an opthamologist could stay President of Syria if he was an idiot, even if an idiot could become an opthamologist (which, unlike MBA’s, probably isn’t true — I’ve met too many MBA’s who couldn’t find their ass with both hands, but never met an opthamologist of such astounding incompetence).

Besides, Syria already has their deterrent, and a much cheaper one it is. They have tons of organophosphate nerve agents and the missile warheads to fire them off at the Israelis if the Israelis decide to mount another tank attack upon Damascus. So why would they want nukes in the first place?

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/04/25/i-have-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-35883 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:03:07 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4099#comment-35883 There is just too much traffic around the site – the river, a road, a railroad. There are smaller rivers in more isolated areas if you want to do something secret. The sucker is on a bloody hill in full view. There is no attempt to camouflage the site in any way.

I think Syria would love to have nuclear power plants and weapons, but it doesn’t have the cash, and no one is going to give them a loan, even if the credit markets weren’t in total meltdown. With Lebanon coming apart on the West, and Iraq on the East, I can’t see them ready to start something with Israel. The government of Syria is evil, not stupid.

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/04/25/i-have-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-35881 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 04:32:36 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4099#comment-35881 On Google Earth you can follow the lightly-buried pipeline directly from that building to what appears to be a water treatment plant (at least, I see two settling pools and two aerobic pre-treatment pools similar to, say, the Tempe AZ water treatment plant). Running pipelines in the desert is a bit different from running pipelines in built-up areas or on the flatlands, you’re running across scree-covered rock so either you put it up on pedestals or you just lay it on the ground and pile scree over it to keep the random camel or jackass from kicking it to pieces. You can generally follow their course from the air.

I’ll also point out that there doesn’t seem to be any electric lines scattered around. This implies on-site electrical generation. That’s not a big deal, that’s normal in the desert — it’s easier to haul diesel out there once a week than pop for the PITA of running electrical wires across rock faces.

Regarding cooling towers: There appears to be some construction to the right of the building that could hypothetically be the start of a cooling tower. The problem is that the U.S. said that the reactor was just about *finished*. And that can’t be so if the cooling tower has barely passed the groundbreaking stage.

In short. Right now, I’m at “pull the other flipper, why doncha?” stage. Too much just isn’t adding up.

-Badtux the Nuclear Penguin

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/04/25/i-have-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-35879 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 03:50:32 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4099#comment-35879 All the UN needs to do is follow the water main. If the main goes anywhere except directly to that building, there is absolutely nothing to indicate the possibility of a reactor.

As for the windows, I’ve poured some concrete, and all of those windows make the job more expensive. If you don’t need them, you don’t put openings in a concrete wall.

If they don’t cool that water they lose a lot of food production down stream. Even the North Koreans have solid concrete buildings and cooling towers.

As you have said before, Badtux, this was a training run to test the Russian antiaircraft systems and to set up a run at Iran through Syria and Iraqi Kurdistan.

Of course with all of the junk the Hedgemony has released, it shouldn’t be too difficult for Syrian security forces to pick up a few Israeli agents if there is any truth in any of this.

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By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/04/25/i-have-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-35877 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:34:18 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4099#comment-35877 Thanks Badtux! YOu saved us all some work. 🙂

Yeah… it realy stinks! So… questions is… WTF were Israel & the USA *REALLY* after? And you can bet your last cent the USA (Bushmoron & co) were in this up to their sloping brows!

I will watch this develop with interest. And do some research of my own with some contacts I have. We’ll see.

Cheers!

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/04/25/i-have-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-35876 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:30:50 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4099#comment-35876 The notion that anybody in this day and age can build a nuclear plant in secret is just ludicrous. The North Koreans didn’t do it, the Pakistanis didn’t do it, the Iranians haven’t managed to keep their nuclear facilities secret, Israel wants to believe their nuclear facilities are secret but everybody knows about them anyhow. Everybody and their brother keeps close tabs on any technology that can be used to build nuclear power plants. Even the North Koreans had to import most of the stuff for their power plants, and Syria is just as dirt-poor as North Korea and has even less industry — poorer, maybe, because at least North Korea gets cash for their missiles and nuclear technology, while all Syria gets is bribes to let Hizballah rockets pass through their territory to Lebanon.

That said, there’s some answers. There’s no need for a cooling tower if you’re just going to eject the hot water back into the river. Yeah, that’s not environmentally sound, but so it goes. And the containment building? Commies don’t need no steenkin’ containment, comrade! The North Korean graphite plants don’t have containment buildings either.

That said, the chances of there really being a nuclear plant out there are pretty much non-existent because, well, the Syrians are friggin’ flat broke and the North Koreans ain’t a charity outfit. This setup looks more to me like a house and a generating station for the pumping station down at the river, for pumping water somewhere uphill. I bet if we look at this area real closely on Google Earth we’ll see a water tower further uphill, and a town somewhere nearby that the water tower serves.

Hmm, just found it on Google Earth, and uphill from this is…

a water treatment plant.

Well. Wouldn’t be the first time that U.S.-built bombs smashed a water treatment plant, eh?

As for the building itself, Google Maps shows it as being 150 feet by 150 feet square (move the building over the scale to see what I mean). Or roughly 22,500 square feet. Not small, but not large enough for the purpose indicated. Crap, your typical Safeway grocery store is twice the size (the average Safeway is 44,000 square feet, and the new ones average 55,000 square feet). Unless the Syrians have mastered Dr. Who’s interdimensional Tardis technology, you simply can’t fit what the U.S. is saying was in there into the building that was there…

I am SOOO tired of these lying liars and their continued lies… sigh.

– Badtux the Fact-checking Penguin

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