Comments on: Raising the Barr

By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 14 May 2008 15:55:41 +0000

hipparchia, the supers are supporting Obama too. And if they flipped the ticket that way, they could very well keep those DFH’s out, and we will then abstain in November. So that won’t happen.

By: hipparchia

hipparchia — Wed, 14 May 2008 10:39:20 +0000

oh, well, if you’re offering a secret undisclosed location… 😛

math schmath.

if the pledged delegate count is close, the superdelegates can swing it either way they choose. that was basically the whole point of having supers, to keep pure populism from ‘ruining’ the party or nominating an unelectable candidate.

By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 14 May 2008 08:17:32 +0000

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By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 14 May 2008 08:16:31 +0000

Obama has the nomination mathematically, so there’s no “settling for second place” involved. Plus she’d have the whole fourth branch to herself, and the secret undisclosed location, and all the power that entails.

By: hipparchia

hipparchia — Wed, 14 May 2008 05:57:08 +0000

that would be clinton-obama. 😉

much as i’d like to have a woman vp, i’d hate for her to settle for second place like that. otoh, incumbent vice presidents do sem to have an advantage when they run for president, so that could possibly catapult her into the presidency in 2012.

i also think it would be interesting if hillary were to run as an independent if obama is the dem nominee, but she has already said she’ll support obama if he gets the nomination. i don’t see her leaving the party.

i’d dearly love to see a good chunk of the republican party split off, and i agree that the libertarians are no-hopers for awhile longer, thank goodness for small favors.

By: Bryan

Bryan — Wed, 14 May 2008 05:50:22 +0000

Michael, I couldn’t care less what the Democrats do at this point, they have already lost me forever for aiding and abetting the Republican destruction of Florida schools and local governments.

By: Bryan

Bryan — Wed, 14 May 2008 05:46:41 +0000

Well, CG, if you don’t depend on the government to do anything for you, he is definitely against most of the Stalinist features of the Hedgemony. He doesn’t approve of government regulation or foreign involvement, so if you can grow and inspect your own food, and don’t care if you have any government services, Barr could be for you.

I sort of appreciate the fire and police services, so I’ll pass, but there are plenty of people in Florida who will vote for him.

Paul turned down a call to run for President on the Libertarian ticket. I think the GOP startled him with the primary challenge for his seat; the same way the Dems made Kucinich drop out. Paul needs to be a Republican to stay in Congress.

He is more of a Libertarian than Barr, declining to accept his Congressional pension, but Barr is an attorney and much stronger civil liberties advocate.

By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 14 May 2008 05:42:25 +0000

I also think that the Democratic ticket is going to be Obama-Clinton, like it or not.

By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 14 May 2008 05:34:19 +0000

Fortunately, the Libertarians will not have any possibility of winning the presidency in the near future. We will have a Democratic majority and presidency for the foreseeable future. And Bryan, every delegate is going to be counted and there will be peace in the Democratic party I am sure of it.

By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 14 May 2008 05:30:46 +0000

hipparchia, he’s already made a very carefully worded non-endorsement of John McCain, and all but endorsed Barack Obama. So I see no reason he could not be at least as approving of Bob Barr who is ideologically closer to him. I am now seeing this as a developing good thing which may replace the Republican party with the Libertarians.