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Comments on: From Bad to Worse https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/06/12/from-bad-to-worse/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:59:54 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/06/12/from-bad-to-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-37283 Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:59:54 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4284#comment-37283 Small children tend to be more reality based than many adults.

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By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/06/12/from-bad-to-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-37279 Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:49:25 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4284#comment-37279 There wasn’t anywhere really appropriate to post this…But it’s worth posting! LOL And… speaking of Heaven, Hell etc… 😉

I just received an email from a friend who teaches in Scotland. This is (I am assured) a true story, and is an *out of the mouths of babes* type. I’ll simple quote it verbatim:

An answer that only a child from Glasgow could think of.

I was testing the children in my local Sunday school class to see if they understood the concept of getting to Heaven.

I asked them, ‘If I sold my house and my car, had a big garage sale and gave all my money to the church, would that get me into Heaven ?’

‘NO!’ the children answered.

‘If I cleaned the church every day, mowed the garden, and kept everything neat and tidy, would that get me into Heaven?’

Again, the answer was, ‘NO!’ By now I was starting to smile.

Hey, this was fun! ‘Well, then, if I was kind to animals and gave sweets to all the children, and loved my wife would that get me into Heaven?’ I asked them again.

Again, they all answered, ‘NO!’ I was just bursting with pride for them.

Well, I continued, ‘then how can I get into Heaven?’

A six-year-old boy from Glasgow shouted out,

‘YOU’VE GOT TAE BE FUCKIN’ DEID’

Sorry if it offends anyone.

Ahem… Sorry if it offends, but I am sure the truth won’t offend any reality based person here. 😉 😀

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/06/12/from-bad-to-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-37264 Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:43:34 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4284#comment-37264 There were plenty of others who were trying to kill people all over the world for various reasons. I had the Marxists and Palestinians trying to blow me up once a month when I was stationed in Germany. They killed an officer when when they bombed the US Army buildings in Frankfurt, but we only had structure damage at the Air Force facility.

The so-called super-IEDs of Irag, the Explosively Formed Penetrators, were used against bankers and other high=profile targets in Germany.

That doesn’t take into consideration the Greek whackos, the IRA in Britain, Basque separatists in Spain or the Red Army Faction in Japan.

There were a couple of weeks when Southeast Asia started to look like a good place to be for peace and quiet.

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By: mapaghimagsik https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/06/12/from-bad-to-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-37263 Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:51:57 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4284#comment-37263 Recently saw the documentary about the Weathermen. I had no idea they carried out so many bombings. At the same time, I couldn’t help but be impressed that they didn’t (and actually tried not to ) kill anybody.

But yeah, 2001 was a big attack, but the idea that it all started there is just silly.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/06/12/from-bad-to-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-37262 Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:11:43 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4284#comment-37262 Actually, they wore them in Rochester, NY many years ago… until one of the bosses got his nose bent out of shape [i.e. became an officious twit] and banned them.

People think that terrorism started in 2001 in NYC, and have no idea what the world was like in the 1960s and 70s.

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By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/06/12/from-bad-to-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-37257 Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:35:32 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4284#comment-37257 We don’t have SWAT. We have SAS. LOL 😉 OK… we do have a Police special unit, but I wouldn’t call them *fast response*!

Actually. I like the ex-UK copper. He was a very sane individual, and anyone who survived several years in Belfast during the 80’s & 90’s is someone worth listening to! 🙂 We had many chats after classes, and compared notes. I learned a lot. 🙂 After that Griffin class, he asked what I’d put on the vests… I said that it would depend on my mood. Maybe I’d have 2, one with “If you see me running, try to keep up!”, and another with “Don’t bother me! I shoot to kill!” for the press and assorted idiots with stupid questions. We both laughed. LOL

I saw a pic of a T-shirt some years ago that was similar the first one. On the front it said “I’m with the bomb squad” and on the back “If you see me running, try to keep up!” LOL

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/06/12/from-bad-to-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-37250 Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:30:04 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4284#comment-37250 The only reason for the high visibility vests is to keep your own lot from shooting you. I was aimed at all too often when I arrived at a shooting incident in plain clothes, even though you make a radio notification before going in and wear your badge clipped on your jacket. Damn body armor is too expensive to have to replace it because of a jumpy officer.

Terrorists would be a SWAT call – better weapons, training, and protection – plus they know each other on sight and work as a unit.

I think a lot of these people cheering on the televangelists are in for a very rude shock at the end.

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By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/06/12/from-bad-to-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-37246 Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:08:11 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4284#comment-37246 That’s all very true Bryan. 🙂

Last year, I had to renew my security license and add a few more areas I am now *qualified* in. One was a relatively new (for Aus) qual in Project Griffin . PG is a UK initiative begun in 2004 and now in Aus. I was trained as a Project Griffin field Coordinator/Commander. During the training, we were given a neon orange vest, with the red Griffin crest on the front, and the word ‘Commander’ in reflective white on the back and front. I was asked what I would do if I was in a shopping mall and was notified that an event was in progress. The scenario was a suspect bomb or one or more armed suspect terrorists. I replied that I would grab the first person I saw that looked stupid, put the lovely bright vest on them, and tell them to walk out in the open. If they don’t get shot or blown up, I could then assume that it might be safe enough for me to stick my head out for a look! I said they should remove the word ‘Commander’ and put ‘Target’ on the pretty vests, and make whoever came up with them, wear one at a real terrorist event and see if he lives long enough to think they may not have been such a bright idea! To which, it dawned on the rest of the class, who began to look nervous. The instructor was an ex-UK copper who survived 10 years in Belfast riding in an armored jeep with machine guns. He said that’s what he would do too, and laughed. LOL We were shown several video’s of various terrorist events around the World. One was a shopping mall in the USA and a container of sarin gas. Several people were killed, including two security personnel and two paramedics, none of whom should have died if they had any brains. Some of the things we saw were just too stupid to believe, except that they were security camera footage.

The first rule of security, in any field, is protect yourself! You are no good to anyone dead. You know… that whole site assessment thing that is drummed onto a security person, and seems to be the first thing forgotten as soon as they are in the field.

As for the idiot above… I can’t be bothered. It is totally unsurprising to me that these neo-Christians don’t have a clue about what the Bible actually says. They just pick and choose the bits they like. Unsurprising since it’s mostly anti-social morons and criminals who become neo-Christians and evangelicals. My one greatest hope, is that I am present on the day these morons are judged! It would be worth spending a century or so in one of the 7 levels for laughing at the look on these morons as they are judged to spend an eternity in Hell. LOL

Most of these idiots don’t even understand that *Religion* (all of them) is a purely human invention! God never invented religion! LOL Most of these fools think that just because they are a member of one of the thousands of criminal sects, they get an instant pass into paradise! Most of them will spend an eternity scrubbing toilets in hell. LOL

He who laughs last, laughs best! LOL

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/06/12/from-bad-to-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-37245 Fri, 13 Jun 2008 03:00:14 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4284#comment-37245 I often wonder, Kryten, whether any of these people have ever read the Gospels. They keep nattering on about the Old Testament and Revelation, but don’t see to remember much else.

The real problem I have with the “hero” talk is that it stigmatizes those who froze. Freezing up is a perfectly natural reaction. The body and mind can’t deal with the situation and they shut down. You don’t know how anyone is going to react until they are faced with a disaster. You can’t help them cope, if you start off making them feel like they are less than human. You can’t really control the “fight-flight” reflex without a lot of training, and if you have already dumped on someone, it is very hard to bring them back.

Hell, “donut dollies”, the Red Cross volunteers were much better at dealing with attacks than most draftees. I forget which base it was at, if I knew, but this woman buttoned up her stall and brought a pillow to her slit trench when we started receiving incoming, while people around her were wondering what they should do. She knew exactly what to do and how quickly it needed to be done, so she didn’t lose her poise.

This was a training moment, and you hope that the leaders dealt with it professionally.

I remember one of my instructors at the police academy saying that the toughest situation we would face would be deciding what to do when, logically, the situation called for doing nothing. He told us to plan out some sort of “make work” procedure so people could see you doing something, because when you are in uniform, people expect you do something.

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By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/06/12/from-bad-to-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-37243 Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:08:15 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4284#comment-37243 Agree Bryan. I was also a Scout and in the Military (and worked with LEO’s in electronics forensics, and site security).

God also doesn’t like hypocrites and people who hate no matter what it is they hate.

I also can’t stand a hypocrite and morons.

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