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Comments on: Just Say NO! https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/06/19/just-say-no-2/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Fri, 20 Jun 2008 05:21:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/06/19/just-say-no-2/comment-page-1/#comment-37388 Fri, 20 Jun 2008 05:21:40 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4313#comment-37388 At this point they are pushing me towards Bob Barr if I want a Constitution.

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By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/06/19/just-say-no-2/comment-page-1/#comment-37387 Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:43:24 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4313#comment-37387 No point in me commenting. You know what I think of the Dem’s. This just continues to prove the point, a point I made some years ago.

All the apparent differences between the Democrats and the Republicans are superficial at best. They are all selfish, thieves, liars and cowards. One difference is that the Republicans show their cowardice by being bully’s, and the Democrats by cowering and doing nothing in the hope it just goes away. Or to put it another way, the GOP are predators, they Dem’s are prey. 🙂

Nice choice you have in the coming election. Good luck with that.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/06/19/just-say-no-2/comment-page-1/#comment-37386 Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:32:02 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4313#comment-37386 This is not compromising; this is caving.

You don’t gut the Fourth Amendment to score points.

I’m hoping there are still 41 Americans left in the Senate to stop this thing, because Hoyer and Pelosi have surrendered the House.

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By: hipparchia https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/06/19/just-say-no-2/comment-page-1/#comment-37384 Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:19:38 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4313#comment-37384 in exchange for selling out, we got flood relief in the midwest and more money for returning veterans to get college degrees, all tacked onto the we don’t need no steenkin withdrawal timelines war funding bill.

what democrat was going to risk their chances of re-election by not doing whatever it took to get those funded?

i was reading some essays earlier about how leftists are their own worst enemies for being such purists and demanding unreasonable purity from politicians whose job after all is to make deals with the opposing side. ’tis true, to some extent, but at what point do you draw the line? i’d have said further left than this, even at my most pragmatic of moments.

not to mention that the democrats have also changed their refrain from the republicans made us do it! to yeah, we showed them, they can’t keep us from passing our domestic agenda!.

i don’t remember where i read it, but pelosi [i think it was her] actually said something to that effect, that all this bargaining showed that the democrats had stood up to the white house and to congressional republicans on important domestic issues.

are they that stupid that they believe that, or do they just think we’re stupid enough to believe it?

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By: Steve Bates https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/06/19/just-say-no-2/comment-page-1/#comment-37383 Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:11:46 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4313#comment-37383 Russ Feingold is complaining.

This is not what I intended when I voted straight Democratic for most of two decades. If this passes as it stands, the Democratic Party can forget about my active support.

See Glenn Greenwald for a couple more truly horrifying details about this bill. Example: the AG can not merely order the courts to dismiss a lawsuit against the telecoms; he can force them to do so in virtually complete secrecy as to reasons, documents, etc. … secrecy not only from public view, but also from plaintiffs’ attorneys.

That rumbling is not a distant earthquake; it is our Founders turning in their graves.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/06/19/just-say-no-2/comment-page-1/#comment-37381 Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:23:51 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4313#comment-37381 So far, Patrick Leahy is the only one complaining. I would like to see a little more participation opposing this sell-out.

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By: hipparchia https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/06/19/just-say-no-2/comment-page-1/#comment-37380 Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:08:43 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4313#comment-37380 NO!

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