They keep dragging the military into this, because the Congressional Armed Services committees don’t ask questions, like some of the people on the Intel committees.
If it was legal or effective they wouldn’t be hiding what they are doing. They’ve blown reall counter-terrorism activities in Pakistan and Britain because they were successful and claimed ownership on a German op that wasn’t connected to them, so you know that if they were having any real success it would be on billboards.
They have absolutely nothing to show for all of their efforts. All they can do is claim that they have had some.
]]>“How can you tell a politician is lying?”
“Their lips are moving!”
yup!
As for FISA… You should know very well Bryan (given your background), what it was *meant* to be, and what it actually was and is, were always two different things. Politicians were involved… what else would it be.
]]>My reference to honest politicians meant that in the cemetery, a politician is finally what they appear to be. Cold and useless! LOL 😉
The people who actually have backbone and morals can’t get elected because the “establishment” don’t want to be embarrassed by the comparison. The politicians want to win to win, not to do anything.
Exactly. It’s a universal constant sadly. I blame the ancient Greeks and Romans myself. 😉
If the incident actually happened, ten minutes explaining the situation should have taken care of it. The law was unnecessary from the start.
]]>The people who actually have backbone and morals can’t get elected because the “establishment” don’t want to be embarrassed by the comparison. The politicians want to win to win, not to do anything.
]]>Kryten, I believe the notion that politicians were better in some distant past is specious. I know you don’t mean to paint a rosy picture, but ask yourself if Tammany Hall and the Chicago machine were really better than what we see today. Politics is a sorry game… as it has always been.
On topic, the FISA law before this most recent round of Democratic Party cave-ins served a useful purpose. Warrants are a good thing, and they are no less a good thing because the subject of investigation is secret. The one small correction you mention, Bryan, is IMHO the only essential change to the law at this time. But the Bushists, now with Democratic complicity, want much more: they want the legal underpinnings of a surveillance state. I’m afraid we will henceforth celebrate the Fourth of July not as an anniversary of revolution, but instead as something revolting.
]]>I doubt very much you’ll find any truly honest, caring Politicians any more, except maybe a cemetery. Because anyone that honest, wouldn’t have a chance becoming a Senator or Congressman, or a Dog Catcher, these days.
Anyone who really wants to be a Politician these days is either a selfish coward who will cut a deal with anyone to protect their ass, amoral or immoral or an insecure control freak (the main difference being that they either totally get off on controlling others, or just want to get *you* before you get them), a complete crook, or is someone who is an unrealistic dreamer with a death wish.
]]>Perhaps living in DC isolates you from the truth, because everything is coming through the filter of the corporate media, which is just as cowed and compromised. The two-party system has failed and it’s past time to clean out the dead wood.
]]>This administration has turned the Constitution into (as Bush himself referred to it) “a G** D*** piece of paper.” The scariest part though, there are alot on the other side of the aisle who don’t think that’s a bad idea.
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