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Comments on: Who Your Friends Are https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/08/16/who-your-friends-are/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:09:43 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/08/16/who-your-friends-are/comment-page-1/#comment-38760 Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:09:43 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4880#comment-38760 Well, Turks and Georgians don’t get along very well. Sort of like Greeks and Turks, for much the same reason (the western part of Georgia suffered Ottoman rule for some time and it apparently was not very pleasant). Accepting Turkish troops onto Georgian soil will happen about the same time that Iraq accepts Saudi and Kuwaiti troops onto Iraqi soil, i.e., when hell freezes over. Furthermore, the Turks don’t have any major air bases near Georgia due to the rugged terrain, their nearest major air base is near Ankara, no good for flying CAP over Georgia even if the Georgians had asked them. Still, failing to consult with the Turks just because half your population hates them isn’t good thinking. On the other hand, good thinking has been in short supply on the Georgian side of things for the past 20 years…

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/08/16/who-your-friends-are/comment-page-1/#comment-38735 Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:49:09 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4880#comment-38735 Some people “hear what they what to hear and disregard the rest” as the song says. Saakashvili was bound and determined to do this and certain that the US and NATO would come riding to the rescue if things didn’t work out. He thought that sending troops to Iraq was the payment for support, and didn’t realize that the Hedgemony only takes.

It’s August, Jill. Like the French, the Hedgemony goes on vacation in August.

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By: Cookie Jill https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/08/16/who-your-friends-are/comment-page-1/#comment-38731 Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:42:47 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4880#comment-38731 I still haven’t heard on the corporate media detailed accounts on McCain’s Foreign Policy advisor who is also a lobbyist for the Georgian government and if we knew there were some rumblings escalating in that region, where the h**l was Condi Rice (the supposed Soviet expert?) Shouldn’t she have at least been over there conversing with folks?

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By: Jack K., the Grumpy Forester https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/08/16/who-your-friends-are/comment-page-1/#comment-38730 Sun, 17 Aug 2008 05:08:41 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4880#comment-38730 …I went ahead (despite all the demons arguing in my head) and watched the Faux news interview, and was powerfully puzzled for just a moment that anybody who claimed to be a journalist could fail to understand that even a 12 Y.O. American girl visiting relatives in South Ossetia would have a less than favorable view of the Georgian government. South Ossetia is a breakaway region that stirs Russian souls in a way that Chetchnia does not, since they want to be Russian…or independent with Russian connections or whatever (or so is the current storyline)…

The Big News Of The Day that isn’t getting much coverage is that Gee Dub was writing those famous checks with his mouth that his government couldn’t cash and may well be as complicit in this disaster as he was in our disastrously failed occupation of Iraq…

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/08/16/who-your-friends-are/comment-page-1/#comment-38723 Sat, 16 Aug 2008 20:02:42 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4880#comment-38723 It is totally stupid, Hipparchia, which is the hallmark of the Hedgemony’s foreign policy.

Anyone who thinks Ossetians are going to say anything bad about their new overlords, the Russians, is crazy. They survived under the Soviet system and know the rules – you back the group with the most guns.

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By: cookie jill https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/08/16/who-your-friends-are/comment-page-1/#comment-38721 Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:46:33 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4880#comment-38721 Apparently on Faux News, a reality based witness “punked” out the faux folks…

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/16/31435/2844/753/568761

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By: hipparchia https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/08/16/who-your-friends-are/comment-page-1/#comment-38718 Sat, 16 Aug 2008 05:41:38 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=4880#comment-38718 hey, they could hire me as interpreter!

oh, wait… the only thing i remember from turkish class is how to say daylight and quick! hide! the police are looking for you! so maybe i should keep my day job.

yeah, the turkey problem puzzles me too. i’ve been saying all along that the idea wasn’t to fix iraq [or iran or_____] necessarily, but to keep the region in turmoil if we couldn’t control it. in that light, this administration has been very competent, rather than the incompetence that’s often alleged. but i have to admit, ignoring turkey does just make it look like it might be plain old incompetence after all.

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