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Comments on: Uncle Hank’s Christmas Club Account https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/10/04/uncle-hanks-christmas-club-account/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:06:46 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/10/04/uncle-hanks-christmas-club-account/comment-page-1/#comment-40089 Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:06:46 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=5944#comment-40089 The problem is that you have to have insurance for it to do you any good, and the number with insurance is rapidly decreasing.

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By: Moi https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/10/04/uncle-hanks-christmas-club-account/comment-page-1/#comment-40087 Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:21:28 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=5944#comment-40087 Click my link, maybe the people who are getting the shaft will at least be able to get stress relief….. (sigh)

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/10/04/uncle-hanks-christmas-club-account/comment-page-1/#comment-40054 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:21:49 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=5944#comment-40054 I think they waited too long, Kryten, to make much difference. When real investors started looking at balance sheets after they were required to rank assets, it became obvious that many financial institutions were in pitiful shape. When the mortgage-based Ponzi scheme came crashing down as a result of the housing bubble bursting, the reality was there for all to see.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/10/04/uncle-hanks-christmas-club-account/comment-page-1/#comment-40053 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:16:11 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=5944#comment-40053 This isn’t 1929 unless we are playing the Weimar Republic this go around, which, given out war debt is possible. Finance is not binary and there is no reason to assume that, because tight money was a problem the last time, easy money is the solution this time.

The problem is with the banking and insurance systems this time, and the problem it that they don’t trust each other enough to lend the money they have, as they know how corrupt and tenuous the system is.

The one important way in which Bernacki acted in exactly the same way as happened in the Great Depression was not speaking out when he realized the pathetic shape the financial system was in. There’s nothing wrong with yelling “Fire!” in a crowded theater when there is a fire.

We have never really recovered from the last recession, and when the GDP is as dependent on consumer spending as the US economy is, the lack of job growth and stagnant wages only require a spike in a necessity, like energy, to set things into a “flat spin”. House prices have dropped 30% down here but no one is buying. If they go any lower no one will bother to build, because the cost of materials makes it a losing proposition.

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By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/10/04/uncle-hanks-christmas-club-account/comment-page-1/#comment-40049 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 14:31:09 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=5944#comment-40049 The assumption being, of course, that this money will in fact be used as the public has been led to believe it will be used. Notice, I didn’t use the phrase ‘as intended’. LOL It wouldn’t surprise me to see little change and things get worse and the money disappear, and then all the doors of these people will suddenly sprout *gone fishing* (sorry, *gone hunting*) signs and they’ll all go on a little trip elsewhere. Like Chaney suddenly going hunting in Dubai. *shrug*

And even if they do decide to use the money as promised, they are too stupid to do much good anyway. Screwed either way IMHO. 🙂

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/10/04/uncle-hanks-christmas-club-account/comment-page-1/#comment-40044 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 04:50:42 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=5944#comment-40044 I suggest you go look at the Fed’s balance sheet for the three years since Bernanke came on board. Every mistake the Fed made during the Great Depression, Bernanke has done exactly the opposite. The Fed clamped down on liquidity during the Great Depression. Bernanke has printed money with all the abandon of a Weimar Republic finance ministry. There are political limits to what a Federal Reserve chairman can do, he cannot realistically propose legislation to Congress or force the Executive branch to do anything, but everything that is possible for a central banker to do without political help, he has done.

Unfortunately, as I point out in my latest posting on my own blog, we still have at least a 30% drop in housing prices before the situation stabilizes. This is going to continue to play hell with GSE and bank balance sheets as all that money vaporizes out of the system. Bernanke has limited means of injecting new money into the system via the banking system, what he needs is a lot of government bonds to buy, which in turn allows him to inject capital via the bailout mechanism. This particular bailout bill, while far, far, far from ideal, at least gives him that. It’s not perfect. But the last thing you should do when the boat is taking on water is quit bailing because your current bail is a little leaky…

– Badtux the Economics Penguin

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