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Comments on: Veterans Day https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/11/11/veterans-day-4/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:21:53 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/11/11/veterans-day-4/comment-page-1/#comment-40704 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:51:46 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=6375#comment-40704 Petraeus is, was, and always will be a political officer. His advancement was predicated on advocating for the policies that the political powers wanted to implement. His “innovation” was rehashing what we had learned the hard way in Southeast Asia, but it was really too late for them to have a lot of effect on the ground.

He’ll retire because there is no place for him to go. He has four stars and there are no slots open for him after Centcom. He isn’t going to the Joint Chiefs, so he may as well retire.

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By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/11/11/veterans-day-4/comment-page-1/#comment-40700 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:16:04 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=6375#comment-40700 Curiously, this was just posted at C&L:

I look for Petraeus to eventually quit the Obama administration

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By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/11/11/veterans-day-4/comment-page-1/#comment-40699 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:06:04 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=6375#comment-40699 Very true Bryan. Well said.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/11/11/veterans-day-4/comment-page-1/#comment-40698 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:33:03 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=6375#comment-40698 It might surprise you Kevin, but a real war zone is an excellent environment for the creation of atheists and pacifists. It is an intense reality that cannot be ignored and it will change people forever.

If properly trained and led, the military can prevent wars. Unfortunately, in the US the people at the top are elected and the military is dependent on the voters making rational decisions, which is rare and discouraged by the politicians.

The Strategic Air Command wasn’t being ironic with its motto “Peace is our Profession” and it worked throughout the Cold War period. Mutually Assured Destruction wasn’t exactly a sane concept, but it did function as advertised.

It is difficult for people to understand, but the professional soldier is the hardest to convince that a war is necessary because he/she knows on a personal level what wars really cost. The metal shipping containers covered with flags are not symbols to a veteran, they are people.

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By: Comrade Kevin https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/11/11/veterans-day-4/comment-page-1/#comment-40697 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:21:07 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=6375#comment-40697 As a Quaker, I am officially against armed combat and war as an institution, so I have deeply ambivalent feelings on Armistice/Veteran’s Day. Maybe someday soon we’ll put war aside, but I have a feeling it won’t be within my lifetime.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/11/11/veterans-day-4/comment-page-1/#comment-40695 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:41:18 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=6375#comment-40695 Thank you, Jill.

At least the worst I had to deal with was Nixon and Kissinger, Frederick. Our general officers tended to be pros with any a few exceptions, while you’re stuck with a political officer corps.

I have nothing but respect for the men and women who have to serve on current conditions, because politics within the military was not something we had to worry about – it really was never a topic of discussion, nor was religion.

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By: Story of the Day https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/11/11/veterans-day-4/comment-page-1/#comment-40694 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:39:01 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=6375#comment-40694 […] Why Now?: Veterans Day […]

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By: Frederick https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/11/11/veterans-day-4/comment-page-1/#comment-40693 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:03:54 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=6375#comment-40693 Right back at you, my fellow vet.

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By: cookie jill https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/11/11/veterans-day-4/comment-page-1/#comment-40692 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:57:30 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=6375#comment-40692 I honor your service to our country, Bryan…and to blogtopia!

Thank you.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2008/11/11/veterans-day-4/comment-page-1/#comment-40691 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:37:55 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=6375#comment-40691 The verse is traditional, but I have always been bothered by the concept of continuing to fight just because troops have been lost. There are times when stopping the war is a better alternative.

I’m also bothered by the fact that leaders who lose wars get replaced, but nothing ever seems to happen to the leaders who lose the peace.

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