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Comments on: The Apocalypse https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/03/24/the-apocalypse/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:00:19 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/03/24/the-apocalypse/comment-page-1/#comment-43879 Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:00:19 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=8364#comment-43879 I wasn’t trusted to do that for fear I might produce a sound. The triangle kept me occupied.

I have heard my voice on tape, and that was a good decision. My speaking voice is a versatile instrument, but there is something about the addition of music that makes it go atonal and really annoying. I think the problem is what I’m hearing, versus what everyone else hears.

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By: LadyMin https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/03/24/the-apocalypse/comment-page-1/#comment-43878 Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:03:07 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=8364#comment-43878 Back when I was in grade school there was no political correctness to worry about… the music teacher felt free to tell me to just “lip sing” the words at our Christmas play. Yes, my singing was that bad. 😐

LadyMin´s last blog post..Project Budburst

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/03/24/the-apocalypse/comment-page-1/#comment-43877 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:41:17 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=8364#comment-43877 After it became patently obvious that I couldn’t sing, I was trusted with the triangle. This was because I could recognize directions and would follow them if they were logical.

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By: LadyMin https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/03/24/the-apocalypse/comment-page-1/#comment-43872 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:30:57 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=8364#comment-43872 This brings back memories.

When I was in grade school we all had to learn to play the “Melody Flute”. I enjoyed it but I’m pretty sure anyone listening to me did not feel the same way. I am not musically inclined… not even a tiny bit. Although I love to listen to music, I couldn’t carry a tune if it were in a bucket.

LadyMin´s last blog post..Project Budburst

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/03/24/the-apocalypse/comment-page-1/#comment-43860 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 05:33:43 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=8364#comment-43860 Well, Steve, I don’t teach the recorder, I just play the dadburned thing, so I’ll leave the technical description of what I’m doing with my tongue to get good sounds out of the thing to the experts like you :-).

Kryten, no problem with the thumbhole here either. But agree that the little finger can be a bit difficult to hit. It’s set up to be half-holed the “easy” way (i.e., without having to “feel” for the note) and my finger only gets across one of them, and then it’s a bit flat and I’m like, “wait a moment, that wasn’t the right note!” sigh. Luckily I don’t play (or teach) recorder for a living, so I just start over and play it right the next time, undoubtedly driving my neighbors as mad as Bryan is being driven by his next door neighbor’s kid :-).

– Badtux the Musical Penguin

Badtux´s last blog post..VAT taxes and financial crack

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/03/24/the-apocalypse/comment-page-1/#comment-43856 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 05:03:16 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=8364#comment-43856 I would prefer that he learned to play guitar, either nylon-strung acoustic, or an electric with earphones, but no one asked.

I played an electric bass badly for a while. Short fingers and a total lack of musical talent brought that to end.

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By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/03/24/the-apocalypse/comment-page-1/#comment-43854 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:44:07 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=8364#comment-43854 In primary school, I had a choice and chose drums (percussion) and enjoyed it. I even played in the school band. In college, they didn’t gave a damn what the students wanted or what they could do. Every student was forced to learn the recorder. I hated it even though I did manage to play reasonably well. It was a Christian Brothers College, except there was nothing either *Christian* or *brotherly* about the sadists that ran it with a leather fist. I remember my parents had to pay a lot for the recorder which had to be purchased through the school… was a Yamaha from memory. I didn’t really hate the recorder (and I enjoy listening to a good performance), but I hated being forced to learn and play an instrument after I’d just spent three years getting good at an instrument I did enjoy. My mom and my Grandparents had just got me a drum kit for Christmas (a near-new 2nd hand Pearl kit), and I’d turned the garage into a sound studio (it was solid brick and I padded the walls with foam insulation and egg cartons.) Worked a treat. LOL I got part time work and saved and got myself a hi-hat and a 20″ full-ride paiste cymbal. I had no idea there were so many variations until I went to the drum shop (was called Billy Hyde’s Drum Clinic. Billy ran the place back then with his son and was a drummer most kids aspired to emulate! He was always helpful and patient with me.) He passed away a year later. A real shame. 🙁

I don’t recall having any problems with the thumb hole. I suspect because the thumb and index finger are used a lot with drum work. 🙂 I did have a problem with my little finger though! I mean, come on… who uses it? *sigh* 😉

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/03/24/the-apocalypse/comment-page-1/#comment-43850 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:59:29 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=8364#comment-43850 Oh, he doesn’t work there, he just “helps” his dad.

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By: Steve Bates https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/03/24/the-apocalypse/comment-page-1/#comment-43848 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:33:32 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=8364#comment-43848 “… early music groops…” – SB

Oops. Or perhaps I mean oups.

“Steve, even knowing the principles intellectually (and I suspect the kid does have a teacher at school who taught him the principles) doesn’t mean that you can perform on the recorder.” – Badtux

No kidding. Recorder playing may have an intellectual component, but if you don’t know the guts-and-fingers aspect, you can’t play.

“Puffing=you’re doin’ it wrong.” – Badtux

Again, right on the money. It’s either tongue to start notes and stop notes, or tongue to start notes and open the mouth (still blowing steadily until the very moment) to cease… puffing just doesn’t work. The 17th- and 18th-century method writers discussed what initial consonants to use: T and D (the German or French soft D, tip of the tongue just above the upper teeth) were favorite single strokes; in fast, liquid 16th-note passages, “diri” or “diddle” were common double strokes (but not the “taka” popular with today’s brass players… it’s an ugly sound on a flute-class instrument). FWIW, the development of tongue use goes on even today, particularly in the Dutch school. No, I’m not talking about A’dam’s red light district. 😈

Bryan, one’s first encounter with the thumb hole deserves utmost sympathy… sympathy that I admit is difficult to muster. Working in an auto mechanic’s shop should be no limitation; one of my best students ever (technically and musically) worked on oil rigs. And small hands can be a problem on the larger instruments; a few kids even have trouble with alto (“treble” if you’re British) and tenor, and everyone has to stretch on instruments larger than a bass, despite its keywork.

Steve Bates´s last blog post..Watch Bill Moyers

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/03/24/the-apocalypse/comment-page-1/#comment-43844 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:49:07 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=8364#comment-43844 With the state of our schools, I’m happy he’s getting any exposure. At least it isn’t drums.

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