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Comments on: Geek Stuff https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/05/19/geek-stuff/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Thu, 21 May 2009 17:05:25 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/05/19/geek-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-45273 Thu, 21 May 2009 17:05:25 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=9137#comment-45273 The original churches were all communes, something the wingers don’t like to acknowledge. Somehow things didn’t take off for Christianity until the profit motive and government subsidies kicked in under the Roman Empire in the East, but people aren’t supposed to know about those realities, Hipparchia.

It’s a chemical imbalance, Kryten. Talking to invisible friends is harmless, but when you start hearing answers – well, there are meds for that.

People don’t want to know what’s going on, so they invent simple answers involving all-powerful entities without ever following the implications to the end. Then they have to create facile answers to all of the paradoxes created by the existence of these all-powerful entities, which usually involve finding scapegoats – the always convenient “sinner”, whose existence isn’t proven either.

Shallow thinking – for some it’s not a bug; it’s a feature.

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By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/05/19/geek-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-45270 Thu, 21 May 2009 06:04:56 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=9137#comment-45270 Now Bryan… come on. You are showing a distinct lack of trust and faith! LMAO

There is a reason why these ‘faith’ peddlers want their flocks to remain illiterate and ignorant you know. And let’s not forget “Qvestions are verboten!!” Unless of course they are approved before hand. 😉

I also only believe what I know. and I believe that what I know may well be incorrect or subject to change. 🙂 That’s fine by me, I actually like change and I’m always relearning. My brain doesn’t hurt. 😉 The Universe has proven to be extremely dynamic and elastic, no matter how many moronic humans would like to believe otherwise. I have a hunch the Universe doesn’t give a damn about what a few infinitesimal, insignificant bit’s of organic mass down here think about anything. 🙂 Personally, given the evidence to date in recent decades, I think that nature has decided that independent thought was a really bad evolutionary idea. 🙂 But, it was a nice idea and a good try. Maybe next time she can boost the actual ‘intelligence’ and ‘common sense’ parts of the brain, and reduce the number of ‘moron’ cells a tad. 😆 Hmmm. Maybe she can cut the ‘arrogance’ and ‘self-interest’ bits, and maybe whatever the gene is that seems to force people given a choice to usually make the wrong one, or the choice most likely to lead to failure. It’d be amazing if it want so damned prevalent and annoying. I wouldn’t mind so much if the choice only led to their own failure, sadly, humans seem to like dragging everyone with them when they fail, but tell everyone to p*ss off when they occasionally succeed (usually either by accident or because they take the credit or work of many others, predominantly the sub-species or genus Politician, Executive, and so forth) and keep it all to themselves!

*sigh* Too bad I’m not in charge of the evolution R&D crew. I’d be cutting bits until all that was life was… well, kinda like a chicken without feathers, or claws or beaks. 😉 Maybe I can send my Resume to Mother Nature? Anyone got her address? I’d soon have the ‘human experiment’ a success, or bin it once and for all. 😆

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By: hipparchia https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/05/19/geek-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-45268 Thu, 21 May 2009 05:40:36 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=9137#comment-45268 damned marxist, he was.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/05/19/geek-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-45266 Thu, 21 May 2009 05:05:28 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=9137#comment-45266 Didn’t money chasers get kicked out of the church? Oh, I’m sorry, that was money changers kicked out of the temple.

I seem to remember another point about a lot of money causing a major problem for those wishing to be “saved”, and that people should give away their material goods to the poor. That guy was something of a socialist.

I don’t believe in evolution any more than I believe in the chair I’m sitting in. They exist whether they have believers or not. Reality is like that. If it requires belief to “exist” it isn’t real.

People have a right to believe whatever they want, as long as it doesn’t make them think they can park on my Mother’s lawn, and they keep it to themselves.

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By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/05/19/geek-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-45265 Thu, 21 May 2009 04:33:46 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=9137#comment-45265 That type of thinking is also characteristic of pig ignorance and rampant stupidity, of which the World today has way too much of. I think many people prefer *faith* and and ignorant beliefs because trying ti understand things makes their heads hurt. IMHO 😉

I can’t wait for the next evolutionary cycle, but Nature works very slowly usually. Mind you, she can get nasty when it suits. 😉 :lol:Of course, the money-grubbing faith peddlers would say that’s just doG getting annoyed and you better send more money. Heh… 🙂

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/05/19/geek-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-45262 Wed, 20 May 2009 19:38:42 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=9137#comment-45262 People try to oversimplify everything and make it fit into a preexisting mold that they pretend to understand. There are ways, with a lot of study and comparisons, to place this fossil on the tree, but trying to extrapolate from one example is a fool’s errand. That type of thinking is characteristic of belief, not science.

It is a wonderful clue about life on the planet 47 million years ago but we would need to have a representative fossil from at least every million years to show linkage was justified, and I don’t think we will ever be able to get them. Look at how long it took to figure out the dino-bird link.

The guess is that this animal died from a burst of gas and fell into the lake sediments.

If more people really understood evolution, they would be able to ignore all of the bad “PR science” out there.

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By: Steve Bates https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/05/19/geek-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-45257 Wed, 20 May 2009 18:02:40 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=9137#comment-45257 Regarding that fossil: Please tell people to read about the Burgess shale. If that wiki intrigues you, there’s a more extensive description in Stephen Jay Gould’s book Wonderful Life, which is pitched at amateurs like me.

The short version: within the last century or so, overwhelming evidence has emerged that the tree of life is broad, shallow and ruthlessly pruned. There are far more extinct evolutionary groups of species than groups alive today. That little lemur is as cute as can be, and I’d be delighted to learn that H. sapiens is descended from it… but I wouldn’t bet a nickel on the possibility. As you say: take it for what it is; learn what we can from the find.

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