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Comments on: It Was Legal And Constitutional https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/07/05/it-was-legal-and-constitutional/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:34:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/07/05/it-was-legal-and-constitutional/comment-page-1/#comment-46772 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:34:33 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=9923#comment-46772 I should note that Obama’s crew made sure my vote wasn’t counted in the primary, which is why I refused to vote for him in the general election.

Actually, I have been pleasantly surprised by the Honduran military. They really do seem to be going the extra mile to avoid bloodshed, which is not exactly a common trait among the military in this hemisphere.

The ex-pats in Miami and New Orleans overwhelmingly are happy to see Zelaya gone, and they are not the wealthy supporters of the status quo, as most are refugees from areas devastated by hurricanes here on special visas.

If Zelaya was really interested in helping the poor, he could have started by breaking up some of his land into farms for the common people. He could have personally sent up a micro-loan bank, or helped get coops going, or any number of other things that don’t require the government.

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By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/07/05/it-was-legal-and-constitutional/comment-page-1/#comment-46771 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:02:39 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=9923#comment-46771 I didn’t vote for Obama either!! Errr… I guess my vote doesn’t actually count there though, does it? 😉 Well… Howard was our Obama, and I didn’t vote for him either! 😛

I’ve been chatting with a friend here (friend of a friend really) who lived in the Honduras for some years when his family moved there, before he came here to study for a PhD in Psychology. He says that many in Honduras don’t understand what happened let alone anywhere else, but if one looks at the constitution and other legal documents and precedents, what happened was the only lawful and correct option. He commented that more people he speaks to in Honduras are realizing that’s the case.

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/07/05/it-was-legal-and-constitutional/comment-page-1/#comment-46765 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:49:22 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=9923#comment-46765 I too did not vote for Obama in the primaries. I reluctantly voted for him in the general because John McCain would have been an utter disaster as President, but I decidedly had to hold my nose to do so. My deal is that I met many Obamas over the years spent teaching in all-black schools, i.e., black professionals, and they were all social conservatives, conservative on national defense, and liberal only when it came to social programs benefitting the poor and minorities. The notion that Obama would significantly change our position on Iraq or significantly change the Shrubbery’s policies regarding shredding the Constitution simply didn’t pass the laugh and giggle test for me. The best I could come up with to defend Obama is that, regardless of anything else, he is at least an intelligent man, he predicted the Iraq mess 100% before it happened. But he is, as Bryan pointed out, fundamentally conservative in his outlook, and better than the alternative only because the alternative was the senile sabre-rattler shouting “you kids get off my lawn!” and the snowbilly from Wasilly.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/07/05/it-was-legal-and-constitutional/comment-page-1/#comment-46761 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:13:27 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=9923#comment-46761 If you are referring to Obama, be advised I didn’t vote for him in the primary or general election as he is a moderate Republican wearing a Democratic label, and is not a liberal or even progressive. He is continuing the lead of Bush on ignoring the US Constitution using the same excuse – national security.

Zelaya ignored his constitution and removed himself from office, the military got assigned the job of taking out the trash, another wealthy pretend cowboy.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/07/05/it-was-legal-and-constitutional/comment-page-1/#comment-46755 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:15:36 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=9923#comment-46755 I have spent enough time with Central Americans in social settings that I have heard all of their complaints about the outsiders views of their countries, when the outsiders don’t make the slightest effort to actually look at the countries.

I have no use for Hugo Chavez, but the Hedgemony was playing games to try to remove him. The games were discovered, and he’ll be around as long as Castro because of them. If the US would stop screwing around and just deal with the facts of individual cases, we might improve our relations down there.

Zelaya is the Honduran equivalent of the Shrubbery – a pampered rich kid living off his family’s money who decided he liked the perqs that went with being president. Saying he’s a leftist makes Che spin in his grave. He has not made one concrete move to help the poor of Honduras, he just hands out gifts to show what a nice rich guy he is. Even with that he has the Shrubbery’s approval ratings.

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/07/05/it-was-legal-and-constitutional/comment-page-1/#comment-46752 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:17:03 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=9923#comment-46752 It is hilarious that you see the same lefties who were blasting the Busheviks for their clear violations of the Constitution contort themselves to excuse Zelaya’s violations of the Honduran constitution because, well, because Zelaya was best buds and pals with Hugo Chavez so that must make him a good guy, huh? Makes you wonder if they were just playing partisan politics during the Bush years rather than having any real regard for the US Constitution…

– Badtux the (Amused?) Penguin
.-= ´s last blog ..I leave civilization for three days and… =-.

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By: Twitted by badtux99 https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/07/05/it-was-legal-and-constitutional/comment-page-1/#comment-46751 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:13:49 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=9923#comment-46751 […] This post was Twitted by badtux99 […]

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