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Comments on: Police Tactics https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/07/26/police-tactics/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:49:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/07/26/police-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-47358 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:49:04 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=10309#comment-47358 The reporting was wrong, it wasn’t a neighbor, it was an individual who just worked in the area, and she didn’t know the people involved were black and said so.

I don’t understand why the cops didn’t have someone check the city directory to get the name of the home owner. We would do that when the directory was an actual book, not an on-line database in most places these days.

I’m still waiting for Obama to take a stand on something, but I’m not holding my breath.

Cambridge is not a big city environment, and neighbors would definitely know each other, even if they weren’t on speaking terms.

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By: Moi https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/07/26/police-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-47354 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:43:41 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=10309#comment-47354 Ya know, though, the neighbor thing really gets me. When I lived in the city, my next door neighbors knew EVERYTHING that went on at my house, who came and went, etc. Out here in Aymish country, the neighbors across the street know EVERYTHING about who comes and goes here, too. They saw my side neighbor shooting at the deer from HIS back yard. Old ladies have nothing better to do than to mind everyone else’s business.

So you can’t tell me the “neighbor” didn’t know who was going into his own house. That’s the most bogus thing of all.

And who would expect Obama to react any differently? Of course he’s in the Harry and Nancy Bunch. For some reason the words Namby Pamby come to mind….

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/07/26/police-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-47347 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:28:19 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=10309#comment-47347 Ah, yes, the tip lines. In many places in the US they are sponsored, just like TV shows, by businesses, and they pass on all that information to the police, who have to sort through it.

More data does not equal more information.

OTOH, if you don’t have reasonable relations with the public, they won’t talk to you, or tell you things that you need to know when you canvas a neighborhood around a crime scene.

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By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/07/26/police-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-47345 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:14:13 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=10309#comment-47345 Agree Bryan, unfortunately.

And what annoys me now (and the LEO’s I’ve spoken to) is that here as in the USA, there are now TV ad’s telling Joe & Mary Public to rat on anyone and every one they see or hear doing anything that person considers *suspicious*! Good lord… Where do Governments get these insane ideas from? Really! The police here have had to increase their admin staff, especially in various call centers, and use valuable policing resources to sift through the tripled number of calls about *stuff that happened, maybe*. And yet, the same stupid public are screaming about the lack of LEO’s out on the streets to protect them, without realizing the irony that it’s their own stupid fault for doing what the equally stupid Gov tells them to do!

Common sense is truly dead.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/07/26/police-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-47327 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:53:22 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=10309#comment-47327 They’ve released the tapes and transcripts, and the stupidity shines. If this had gone to court a defense attorney would have a field day with Crowley on the stand. This is every basic mistake there is in procedure. Gates should sue, maybe that would convince Cambridge to clean up their act.

Jill, citizens are allowed to get angry. Oh, it wasn’t a neighbor who called, it was a woman going passed. Another problem with the reporting on this case.

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By: cookie jill https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/07/26/police-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-47326 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:57:35 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=10309#comment-47326 I think it just got to the point of waring egos on both sides.
The officer should have left after verifying identification.

Shame the neighbor didn’t recognize their own neighbor “breaking” into his own house.
.-= ´s last blog ..Fighting for the Heart of Dairy =-.

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By: hipparchia https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/07/26/police-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-47317 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 06:16:36 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=10309#comment-47317 If you are easily offended find another line of work.

yep.

it’s a shame obama couldn’t stick with his initial reaction, that the officer behaved stupidly.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/07/26/police-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-47310 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:34:59 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=10309#comment-47310 In reply to Jack K., the Grumpy Forester.

Jack, they went into the situation looking for trouble and they found it. Just as soon as the address verification was made, they should have left because there was no legitimate reason for them to be on the man’s property. Even cops need a reason to be on private property.

Dr. Gates was probably not in the most reasonable of moods. I picked my Mother up after she returned from a trip to Hong Kong and she wanted to get home, get in bed, and collapse. If someone had started pounding on her door, even someone wearing a gun and a badge, a tongue lashing was the least they would have gotten.

He arrived home and his front door stuck, no doubt from all the rain they have had in the Northeast lately, and then the police showed up.

The cop couldn’t control himself, so he couldn’t control the situation. I’ve been called a racist almost every time i arrested a person of color, and I ignored it. You do the job and keep the peace, you don’t argue with people. If you are easily offended find another line of work.

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By: Jack K., the Grumpy Forester https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/07/26/police-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-47309 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:36:22 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=10309#comment-47309 …I’ve watched the post-arrest debate with some bemusement (my pick for winner are comments by Juan Williams on NPR’s Weekend Edition, which I won’t attempt to characterize except to say that he may have mistakenly thought he was commenting at FAUX News). The one thing about the whole episode that puzzled me, however, was why the sergeant and other officers didn’t simply disengage from the situation. Maybe my confusion stems from an adult lifetime of not having handcuffs, Mace, sidearms, or backup when dealing with angry citizens, but just stepping away has always seemed to me to be an excellent way of diffusing a situation that could potentially escalate for no good reason…

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