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Comments on: Real Americans? https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/09/18/real-americans-2/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:01:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/09/18/real-americans-2/comment-page-1/#comment-49070 Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:01:14 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=11370#comment-49070 OT: No problem Bryan. Same here. I wasn’t able to complete both assignments due today and got an extension until Fri for the one I wasn’t able to complete. I haven’t had a chance to even look at the site today. 🙂

So… yeah… real life… etc… 😉
I know the feeling well.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/09/18/real-americans-2/comment-page-1/#comment-49067 Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:29:54 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=11370#comment-49067 In reply to Bryan.

OT: I received the e-mail notification on the comment. Real life is kicking my butt at the moment.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/09/18/real-americans-2/comment-page-1/#comment-49060 Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:34:44 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=11370#comment-49060 In reply to Kryten42.

The education system in the West is only good at teaching people how to go to school. There’s a total disconnect between what you learn in school, and real life for no defensible reason. The classes people really need, like personal finance, are electives if they are offered at all. You are allowed to start voting at 18, but don’t have the skills to evaluate those who are running. The media have totally abrogated their educational function by offering two views on every issue with no analysis of the claims made, and fact checking.

The “experts” in every field that people see on the media are all compromised by conflicts of interest. There is no scoring system indicating how accurate their judgment has been in the past, and no review of why they are famous/noted/known-to-exist.

People come out of high schools with the primary goal of existence. They hope to continue their lifestyle with a minimum of effort and a maximum of wealth, who no idea what anyone actually does in the real world. Trying to deal with people in the computer science curriculum who think that writing code is real PITA, and not something they enjoy doing, but people say this is “the best field for future success” is totally frustrating. Trying to get through to them that if they don’t like writing code, or aren’t very good at it means that if they land a job they will hate it, but their chances of landing a job are minimal.

Education is wasted on students.

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By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/09/18/real-americans-2/comment-page-1/#comment-49059 Mon, 21 Sep 2009 05:51:33 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=11370#comment-49059 I used to fall asleep in my chair (in College), and it was discovered that when this happened… I snored, loudly! It was also discovered that it wasn’t safe to attempt to wake me except from a long distance as I generally had a violent reaction to having my sleep so rudely interrupted! (Especially in my late teens after having practiced Aikido and Weightlifting at competition level for a few years). One brave fool decided to try prodding me with a broom, and discovered what a weapon a broom is in the hands of an expert barely awake. 😉 I spent an hour in the Gym or dojo every morning before school, and usualy worked for a few hours after school (I did security and crowd control in pub’s and clubs a few nights a week). So, I was usually in need of sleep at any opportunity. 🙂 They eventually decided to just allow me to leave an exam as soon as I’d finished. I finished with a Distinction avg. I could have studied more and probably gotten a High Distinction or better (as the coordinator or Dean often complained to me), but i couldn’t be bothered. A distinction was all I required to achieve my goals at that time, and I was far more interested in aikido & weightlifting back then. In a way, if it wasn’t for that, and my Grandfather teaching me to shoot very well at long ranges, I would probably never have ended up in Cambodia or even the Military at all. I don’t honestly know if that would have been a good thing or not… I have days where I wish I’d never been, and others where I’m glad I did and that I could help at least some of the poor innocents from the evil bastards there.

Oh… and yes, I did have a very healthy (generally healthy anyway) interest in ‘Girls’! Luckily for them, I had little time or any real inclination to really pursue that interest, to the disgust of a few. 😉 😆 Especially when most of the bobbleheads my age discovered I generally had more interest in their mothers (there were a couple of attractive single-mom’s) or women that age anyway! I discovered early that maturity and experience can make life a whole lot more interesting! 🙂 And… just for all you dirty-minded people with no lives, reading this… I do NOT mean the ‘sex’ part either. At least… not exclusively! 😉 😛

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/09/18/real-americans-2/comment-page-1/#comment-49058 Mon, 21 Sep 2009 05:28:03 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=11370#comment-49058 In reply to hipparchia.

Miss Smith became the acknowledged expert on dealing with me. They tried it without the book. but I would get up to something that was usually, but not always, non-destructive, but was extremely annoying to people actually trying to take a test.

They had provisions for holding people back, but the rules precluded skipping grades. It was a huge waste of time, but I read a lot of decent books towards the end. The draw back was that my writing skills weren’t being developed at the same time. There was a lack of English grammar and composition books in my reading list.

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By: hipparchia https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/09/18/real-americans-2/comment-page-1/#comment-49057 Mon, 21 Sep 2009 04:40:20 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=11370#comment-49057 those must have been the good old days. i got to stay in from recess and write sentences on the board ‘i will not talk in class’ or sit at my desk with my head down. it took them until about 4th or 5th grade to figure out that they could just send me to the library.
.-= last blog ..We’re number one 37! =-.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/09/18/real-americans-2/comment-page-1/#comment-49053 Mon, 21 Sep 2009 00:22:05 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=11370#comment-49053 In reply to hipparchia.

I know what you mean, Hipparchia. There was a notation in my permanent record to give me a book to read when a test was being taken because I always finished early and would be a disruptive influence. I finished a lot of books during tests. My First Grade teacher, Miss Delores Smith, made the notation. I became aware of it about a decade ago when I ran into my Third Grade teacher.

The problem, CK, is that teachers are required to “teach the test” because the administrators have made the test the most important thing in school. It’s almost to the point that you can graduate if you pass the FCAT, even if you class grade is F because you never turn in any work. The kids who really want to go to college have to teach themselves, because schools only teach the test anymore. It is a totally brain dead situation, and the “conservatives” have a lot of damn gall complaining about it since it was their idea. Of course Obama is continuing the practice.

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By: Comrade Kevin https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/09/18/real-americans-2/comment-page-1/#comment-49052 Sun, 20 Sep 2009 22:37:53 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=11370#comment-49052 If teachers would teach more than the test and would show how each discipline intersects with each other while revealing the fascinating stories and rivalries that go into the subject of history instead of vomiting out a bunch of random facts and dates, then this wouldn’t be an issues.
.-= last blog ..Quote of the Week =-.

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By: hipparchia https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/09/18/real-americans-2/comment-page-1/#comment-49049 Sun, 20 Sep 2009 07:11:02 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=11370#comment-49049 what i found in school was that i could answer the questions correctly and have lots of time left over in which to either become bored or get into trouble, or i could take my time making up interesting, and usually wrong, answers.
.-= last blog ..[what curmudgeon cat sees when he looks in the mirror] =-.

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By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/09/18/real-americans-2/comment-page-1/#comment-49045 Sun, 20 Sep 2009 04:43:49 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=11370#comment-49045 OT: Bryan, I see you used a different e-mail acc’t. 😉 Anyway, I’ve approved you (with apologies for the delay. Seems my host is messing about with the backend and I can no longer SSH in to do my admin stuff, and of course, as a dutifully paranoid security type, I have disabled telnet (in fact, removed it totally!) and my BIND server decided to fall over. *sigh*). Anyway… you should get another e-mail with details. 🙂

Any idea what might have been the issue with your site e-mail? I couldn’t see anything obvious at my end (all the logs relating to the system showed nada for your IP/domain). Ah, well… 😉 We continue onwars… 😀 (It’d be nice to find out what and where the problem lay though). 😉

Cheers, and thanks!

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