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Comments on: A Post I Don’t Want To Write https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/09/20/a-post-i-dont-want-to-write/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:29:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/09/20/a-post-i-dont-want-to-write/comment-page-1/#comment-49071 Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:29:13 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=11384#comment-49071 In reply to Badtux.

He wants to mediate, not lead. He doesn’t seem to have any real goals.

Oh, yeah, I remember student teaching in college. They gave me about 30 seconds before the first attacks started, and it was a small town school in rural New York. You either set the tone immediately or your life becomes a living hell.

The only people Obama feels comfortable criticizing are liberals. He can’t bring himself to deal with the opposition. It won’t be much longer until all he has is opposition.

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/09/20/a-post-i-dont-want-to-write/comment-page-1/#comment-49068 Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:06:07 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=11384#comment-49068 One thing I learned about middle schoolers during my teaching days was that just letting things slide never worked. You had to step in swiftly the moment some kid started misbehaving and school him, make him look like a fool to his peers, a zero rather than a hero, and enforce some consequences immediately.

You can’t just waffle around about how well, little Johnny is a good kid who’s just misbehaving. You have to come down like the hand of God and leave him shaking and wondering what exactly just happened to him. LBJ knew how to do this. Obama, on the other hand… you put Obama into a middle-school classroom, and they’d have him resigning his teaching job in tears by the end of the first week.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/09/20/a-post-i-dont-want-to-write/comment-page-1/#comment-49065 Tue, 22 Sep 2009 04:38:04 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=11384#comment-49065 In reply to Steve Bates.

If you read the local letters to the editor you get flashbacks from those days. The phrasing is identical. People have this weird concept that in the old days you could spot the haters because they used “the N-word”. They don’t understand that “Colored” was the socially acceptable term. The N-word would get you a smack if you were a child as only “trash” used it.

The results were blatant, but the language was anything but. You had better have learned what was really being said or you could find a burning cross on your front yard, or, even your living room.

The Obama campaign played the race card during the primary, and I called them on it when I so sites going along with their stupidity. Attacking people like Harold Ickes was just ignorant. Their problem is that they called wolf too often, and now are afraid to deal with the real “wolf” when it appeared in DC.

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By: Steve Bates https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/09/20/a-post-i-dont-want-to-write/comment-page-1/#comment-49064 Tue, 22 Sep 2009 04:03:40 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=11384#comment-49064 Indeed that’s a difficult topic, and a well-written post, Bryan. I grew up with everything you describe, and I have a childhood incident to add:

I was perhaps seven, with my mother in a grocery store on the boundary of white and black neighborhoods, when I grew thirsty. Mom lifted me up to the nearest water fountain, which happened to be labeled “Colored.” A store manager spotted us and rushed over in a veritable panic, pointing frantically to the sign and speaking with great concern to my mother. Mom, bless her, said to him, “It’s the same water,” and let me continue drinking. Then again, my family was atypical.

The whole business of racism in America, contrary to my fondest hopes in the mid-Sixties, is not over, and it’s not over because of people like Wilson and Beck and the whole nasty crew on the other side of the aisle, who are busy resurrecting the worst racial fears of the less socially aware among us. It’s not even clear to me yet whether having a Black president will actually improve the situation or make the GOPers redouble their efforts to plant the worst motivations in people’s brains.

Recently, Spencer Ackerman (I think) remarked on the treatment of Obama as “three-fifths of a president,” and it occurred to me to wonder if anyone in the GOP base even caught the reference. Either way, the phrase sticks in my mind. To my chagrin, this is not over yet.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/09/20/a-post-i-dont-want-to-write/comment-page-1/#comment-49056 Mon, 21 Sep 2009 04:08:13 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=11384#comment-49056 In reply to Kryten42.

The real problem is that here there is a history of violence to go along with the racism. It’s one thing when the racism results in bar fights between guys who families came from Italy and those who came from Spain over who gets to claim Columbus, or other such silliness, and the murders and bombings over desegregation.

We have vigilantes wandering around near the US-Mexican border, and when you throw in the drug gangs and law enforcement you have a recipe for a lot of dead people, many of them innocent bystanders going about their business.

Of course, the Indians can understand that kind of problem, because there are ethnic killings all the time in India.

Until we deal honestly with the problem and the haters that keep it going, it’s another roadblock to the process of recovery.

There are real, substantial problems, as far as I’m concerned, with what Obama and Congress seem to be headed for in health care reform, but who wants to get involved and risk looking like you are offering aid and comfort to the crazies?

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By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/09/20/a-post-i-dont-want-to-write/comment-page-1/#comment-49055 Mon, 21 Sep 2009 03:40:02 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=11384#comment-49055 I understand and sympathize, and share your anger. Sadly, I’ve seen racism everywhere I’ve traveled, and even here. I truly don’t understand it, and don’t want to. But I don’t know how we can change it without understanding. To me, it seems to be mostly based on ignorance, fear and a strong will to control others (and even just plain evil in some cases). India is a real hotbed of racism on a cultural level, for example. Though, as in the USA and here, there are some places where it isn’t tolerated at all.

Have to agree with Comrade Kevin.

Oh well… back to work. 🙂

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/09/20/a-post-i-dont-want-to-write/comment-page-1/#comment-49054 Mon, 21 Sep 2009 00:31:44 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=11384#comment-49054 In reply to cookie jill.

It still goes on in some places, Jill, although the claim is that students are doing it voluntarily, and it isn’t school policy. The same thing happens in the cafeterias.

Things are a lot better because it isn’t promoted by the powers that be, CK, and it isn’t socially acceptable anymore, but the stupid will always be with us. The worrying thing is that some many are coming out into the open with their hatred, and even carrying signs like the early days of desegregation. I remember the marches and murders as news, CK, not history. It was a very dangerous and nasty time. Understanding the “dog whistles” was a survival skill, not an academic subject.

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By: Comrade Kevin https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/09/20/a-post-i-dont-want-to-write/comment-page-1/#comment-49051 Sun, 20 Sep 2009 22:35:55 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=11384#comment-49051 Racism is a damn difficult thing to get rid of, particularly because it can be so devilishly manipulated and updated for a new age with just the faintest hint of suggestion behind it.
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By: cookie jill https://whynow.dumka.us/2009/09/20/a-post-i-dont-want-to-write/comment-page-1/#comment-49050 Sun, 20 Sep 2009 16:09:35 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=11384#comment-49050 I remember attending one Florida school where there were white sections of the playground and black sections. Coming from New England surrounded by Dartmouth College students and professors from every continent, I didn’t think there would be any problem going to play on both sides. I was physically reminded that it wouldn’t be tolerated.
.-= last blog ..Berkeley Foodie Idealism meets Big Box Store =-.

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