JFK that man was deeply flawed, but this was about a time and turning point in American history. As I said, if you don’t understand that event, you can’t understand what followed.

I didn’t equate the JFK years with Camelot, the media did. That was the media’s term, as those who were alive at the time and paid attention would remember. That was a popular culture reference, just as referring to the Eisenhower years as the era of “Father Knows Best” or “Leave It To Beaver”. These were the common myths of their periods.

I really, truly believe in freedom of speech, and all of the other provisions of the Bill of Rights. I have lived in countries were they weren’t available to the local people, so I appreciate their worth.

Now that the wingnuts are talking in code of assassination [Pslam 109.8], they should understand what they are sowing, and what they can expect to reap as a result.

Amen. (Though, I never thought of you as ‘cranky’! You’ve usually had legitimate rights to be annoyed, and given all that is happening, and has happened this past decade and beyond… What sane person wouldn’t be)! AND PS… I’m not competing, I just easily find myself annoyed at obvious stupidity and ignorance that is very easily overcome these days. There is no legitimate excuse other than wanting to be stupid and ignorant.) 😉

WARNING: If you are easily offended, stop reading!

I was mainly annoyed because this *IS* Bryan’s blog, and JFK is obviously a topic (and person) important to him. And his reasons are nobody else’s concern. Duff showed blatant disrespect, not only to the memory of JFK (as you say, outside the pale), but was (and is) also disrespectful to Bryan. Duff shows his immaturity and ignorance with every comment he makes here. We don’t go over to Duff’s blog (I feel nauseous thinking about it) and crap all over his place, and he’s obviously bored with his blog (and has no bathroom) since he comes here often to take a dump. Jealous I guess, most immature fools are easily jealous.

Here’s a hint Homer, if you want a really big cesspool with lot’s of like-minded fools that will stroke your ego, go to LGF or Malkin’s etc. You’ll fit right in there. 🙂 The only toilet training that goes on here is for the kitties. And you are no cat, though you may well be a pussy. 🙂

Political assassination is not exactly a common experience, even in the US, and it tends to be remembered. A new generation taking control tends to lift spirits. The US was ready for progress, and ready to move forward after the stagnation following World War II. You weren’t part of it, so you can’t understand how we felt. On some level, Britain went through it earlier with the coronation of Queen Elizabeth, as the war time leader was replaced by a new generation.

CK, it would be nice if our current President could find a small portion of the Jackson spirit. Kennedy wasn’t everyone’s choice, but it was similar to going from black and white to color TV – the Eisenhower years were a really depressing gray scale, and Nixon promised more of the same. As for Ted Kennedy, I can never forget what he did in 1980, and how it helped put Reagan in office.

Now, Steve, he can’t help it, he’s a “conservative”.

You have been doing a great series, Jim, and it highlights a major reason for boomer cynicism – they didn’t investigate, they covered things up. It was more a matter of bad police work, in my mind, than a real conspiracy, as the Dalles Police Department was not exactly a leading edge operation.

In the 1960s too many crimes were ‘solved” by finding a anyone in the area and creating the evidence to convict them. The problem was not limited to black suspects being railroaded, nor was it limited to the South.

Lee Harvey Oswald was one of the “usual” suspects, so he got picked. Jack Ruby was another, who would make sure there was no inconvenient trial.

I believe it was the beginning of the end of us.

Until the past few months, I’ve thought I was about the crankiest, rudest old fart I knew. But here I am out of my league: I’ve never disrupted a memorial post, no matter what I thought of the deceased. Doing so is simply outside the pale. And anyone who does so (*cough* Duff *cough*) deserves whatever verbal abuse comes his way.
.-= last blog ..So Much For Loving Thy Neighbor =-.

I wish we had a President along the lines of Jackson who took on the Bank of the United States and, despite its power, successfully killed it.
.-= last blog ..Who Do We Trust with Our Tax Dollars? Who Should We Trust, Instead? =-.

I can believe that kids were traumatized, if for no other reason than the way all of the adults reacted.

Yeah, “duck and cover” got a bit more urgent after the missile crisis. It was a tense and scary time for those of us that lived through it. That’s why LBJ’s daisy ad was so effective when he ran against Goldwater.

I don’t know if there is such a thing as “little kid PTSD”, but I do suspect that Nov. 22, 1963, and pretty much all of 1968 are probably the fertile fields that nurtured the seeds of the hopelessly brutal cynicism that has colored my adult life…

By the way: nice one, Kryten. I laughed out loud at that “Kansas” poseur reference. You’re probably right…

Welcome, Abi. I was very happy to hear our newest Supreme Court justice questioning the entire concept of corporations as people, because they have more control over politics that the actual voters. It is really annoying that they main benchmark of political strength among candidates is their ability to raise money. Even in my sparsely populated area, candidates rely more on media that actually going around to meet people, something that was normal in the medium-sized city I lived in when I was in New York state. Bill Proxmire, a Senator from Wisconsin for 32 years, spent about $200 on each of his last two campaigns, and a lot of that was postage to return campaign contributions, because he didn’t accept them. He wanted public financing of elections, and he wasn’t in favor of making the amount spent very large. The First Amendment is supposed to be about FREE speech. Equating money with speech would see to me to be a rather obvious contradiction.

Actually, Kryten, I just consider the source. Anyone who hasn’t figured out that Obama isn’t a liberal, is fairly isolated from reality.

Ignore Homer. He’s obviously either a GOP stooge, or just a completely ignorant tool. He probably really lives in Kansas, or once did. I bet he has keeps a photo of Toto under his pillow.

What you said Steve! 🙂