But hey, veterans have a day all their own, the ingrates should just quit their carping and accept their fate as road kill in the New America that the Reagan Revolution hath wrought, right? Like you say, “that’s the way the Republicans have always treated vets, as accessories for photo ops who should have done the honorable thing and died during service so they wouldn’t be a burden.” Grrrrrrrrrr…………
]]>The DoD has been “dumping” people on the VA who should still be in military hospitals, as well as the huge influx from Bush’s wars. I won’t register unless I have no other choice, because it will knock someone you may need the help more than I do off the roster. It’s a points system based on your service, where it was once for any veteran.
]]>Hell, there were times in law enforcement when I couldn’t get suspects to shut up after they started talking, and this was after they heard their rights verbally, and then were given their rights on a form to read and sign.
Almost everyone likes to talk, you just have to know how to listen.
]]>Yeah, that’s the way the Republicans have always treated vets, as accessories for photo ops who should have done the honorable thing and died during service so they wouldn’t be a burden. Dead vets are fine, but the ones who fail to die are just an expensive, whining annoyance who expect people to actually provide the benefits that were part of the enlistment contract.
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]]>Top US officials shaped ‘torture’ policy: report
The part of that report that just makes me shake my head is this:
“The approach harnessed a US military program known as Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE), which aims to train US military personnel to resist questioning by foes who do not follow international bans on torture.”
And people say America’s don;y know irony!! 😆 Most may not understand it, but they sure know how to create irony! And this:
One of the officials quoted in the report says some of the harsh tactics were used before the March 2003 invasion of Iraq amid frustration in Washington at the lack of evidence linking Al-Qaeda and Baghdad.
“Even though they were giving information and some of it was useful, while we were there a large part of the time we were focused on trying to establish a link between Al-Qaeda and Iraq,” the report quoted US Army psychiatrist Major Paul Burney as saying of some Guantanamo Bay interrogations.
“We were not being successful in establishing a link between Al-Qaeda and Iraq. The more frustrated people got in not being able to establish this link… there was more and more pressure to resort to measures that might produce more immediate results,” said Burney.
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The report also details repeated warnings from military and other experts, almost from the outset, that harsh questioning was likely to yield “less reliable” intelligence results than less aggressive approaches.One July 2002 memo from the Joint Personnel Recovery Agency that oversees the SERE program warned “if an interrogator produces information that resulted from the application of physical and psychological duress, the reliability and accuracy of this information is in doubt.
“In other words, a subject in extreme pain may provide an answer, any answer, or many answers in order to get the pain to stop,” it said.
Yeah… what I said! Idiots.
]]>I’d LOVE to get my hands on all these morons for a month! I could make them believe their mother is Ronny Raygun! And I kid you not at all! And they will 100% believe it!
Sooooo pissed off with this crap!!
*sigh* Sorry m8… not a good day. Anyway, I am sure you know about this from interrogating witnesses when you were a cop. 🙂 Amazing what people will tell you, and believe it! 🙂
]]>“Moving beyond it” doesn’t work, you have to deal with it.
People who would surrender, won’t, knowing they will be tortured.
It doesn’t even provide usable intel, as every study has shown.
It was done because a bunch of sadistic scum were in command. It is that simple.
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