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Comments on: The Mandate Decision https://whynow.dumka.us/2010/12/13/the-mandate-decision/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Mon, 20 Dec 2010 01:48:48 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2010/12/13/the-mandate-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-54660 Mon, 20 Dec 2010 01:48:48 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=18210#comment-54660 Ah, they got fooled by the mild weather after the first cold snap.

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By: hipparchia https://whynow.dumka.us/2010/12/13/the-mandate-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-54658 Mon, 20 Dec 2010 01:30:17 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=18210#comment-54658 yes, it’s way early but i’ve always thought of camellias as particularly unintelligent flowers. and yes, they first started blooming sometime in the last half of november.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2010/12/13/the-mandate-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-54656 Sun, 19 Dec 2010 22:56:13 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=18210#comment-54656 Really? It’s early, especially with the cold spell.

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By: hipparchia https://whynow.dumka.us/2010/12/13/the-mandate-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-54653 Sun, 19 Dec 2010 20:37:08 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=18210#comment-54653 i have actual visible flowers, but yes, at this point it’s still more buds than flowers.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2010/12/13/the-mandate-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-54650 Sun, 19 Dec 2010 17:23:30 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=18210#comment-54650 Ah, a difference in definition – I limit blooming to actual, visible flowers, not the buds.

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By: hipparchia https://whynow.dumka.us/2010/12/13/the-mandate-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-54645 Sun, 19 Dec 2010 14:27:52 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=18210#comment-54645 yep, blooming already, although still mostly buds…

this is actually the second time. the first round of blooms [not very profuse] was about mid-late november.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2010/12/13/the-mandate-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-54637 Sun, 19 Dec 2010 03:54:16 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=18210#comment-54637 Your camellias are blooming? My Mother’s don’t look like they’ll bloom for another couple of weeks.

This means the Judge will get out a decision quickly, which is one of the reasons for assigning it to him, as a Senior Judge he only deals with one case at a time and doesn’t have anything else on his schedule.

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By: hipparchia https://whynow.dumka.us/2010/12/13/the-mandate-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-54629 Sat, 18 Dec 2010 06:50:37 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=18210#comment-54629 Since there are no camellias involved, Judge Vinson is the president of The Camellia Society, there doesn’t seem room for a conflict of interest charge.

b-b-b-but, my camellias are blooming right now and the judge is ruling now! clearly a conflict of interest!

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2010/12/13/the-mandate-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-54620 Sat, 18 Dec 2010 05:00:48 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=18210#comment-54620 The same issue is being decided locally by Senior Judge Roger Vinson. Judge Vinson retired from active court work a few years ago, but he is the go-to judge for controversial cases.

The reporters in the court room for oral arguments say that the smart money is on the entire thing being ruled unconstitutional based on the mandate. There was no severability clause and he isn’t going to cut Congress any slack, like Judge Hudson did.

Since there are no camellias involved, Judge Vinson is the president of The Camellia Society, there doesn’t seem room for a conflict of interest charge. He just seemed to indicate that requiring people to buy a commercial product is well beyond the power granted by the Commerce clause. The same reason Judge Hudson ruled against it.

The case in Pensacola will be appealed to the 11th Circuit in Atlanta, not the 4th Circuit, so there will be cases decided in different Circuits which is one of the reasons for the Supreme Court to get involved.

I see no reason to waste time on the District court decisions, and everyone knows where this is going to be decided.

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By: Ame https://whynow.dumka.us/2010/12/13/the-mandate-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-54612 Fri, 17 Dec 2010 04:33:28 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=18210#comment-54612 items of interest, I’ll just post the links

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/amateur-hour-va-judge-makes-elementary-error-in-health-care-ruling.php?ref=fpa

http://pr.thinkprogress.org/2010/12/pr20101215/index.html

http://gawker.com/5713041/judge-who-ruled-health-care-reform-unconstitutional-owns-piece-of-gop-consulting-firm

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