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Comments on: Government Censorship? https://whynow.dumka.us/2010/12/16/government-censorship/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Sun, 19 Dec 2010 03:57:38 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2010/12/16/government-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-54638 Sun, 19 Dec 2010 03:57:38 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=18251#comment-54638 Misdirection is part of all theater and magic. It invokes “willing suspension of disbelief”, but a number of people on the Left have been in that state since the 2008 primary.

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By: hipparchia https://whynow.dumka.us/2010/12/16/government-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-54630 Sat, 18 Dec 2010 07:09:35 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=18251#comment-54630 This is more security kabuki, like TSA, that costs a lot of money and serves no purpose.

could be, but allow me to wax more cynical for a moment… with all the lefties now howling at sweden and the uk to ‘free julian!’ they’re not howling at obama for being a republican.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2010/12/16/government-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-54623 Sat, 18 Dec 2010 05:34:02 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=18251#comment-54623 Going after Assange is a waste of time and resources. The Pakistanis just outed the CIAs main agent in the tribal areas because of friction over what is going on along the AfPak border, and that was a real, dangerous leak of classified information that endangered a lot of lies.

I can’t believe the level of overreaction to the latest documents. The Indian foreign ministry has apparently decided to use the cables in their foreign service school, as examples of how to write a proper diplomatic cable. Several people have talked up the hope for book deals for some of the diplomats, as they write a hell of a lot better than a number of published authors.

When Bush’s DoJ dropped proceeding against the two AIPAC employees in the Franklin case, they screwed up any possibility of a real case going forward involving Assange. Assange is a figurehead, and WikiLeaks is a tiny organization. OpenLeaks, started by WikiLeaks alumni just opened its doors, so this will continue regardless.

This is more security kabuki, like TSA, that costs a lot of money and serves no purpose.

I really don’t think any of the current politicians in Europe want to get involved with the US on rendition again. The Hedgemony pretty much poisoned that well. As a non-EU country, the US is going to have to convince the politicians to approve this, and I don’t see that happening for domestic political reasons. The Europeans are frankly fed up with the US War on Terror. Frankly, until there is a major change, the US should forget about wasting money on bids for international events – it’s not going to happen.

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2010/12/16/government-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-54616 Fri, 17 Dec 2010 20:07:02 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=18251#comment-54616 Oh Steve, how innocent you are. They have no hope of a legal case against Assange or Wikileaks due to that whole 1st Amendment thingy. But don’t worry, they will charge him. Any prosecutor worth his salt could get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich, much less some scary lookin’ Aussie who, like, might be a rapist or somethin’. Not that Assange would ever end up in the United States if the U.S. got some 3rd party to extradict him. He’d really get charged then… the CIA’s black prisons are still open, y’know?

— Badtux the Snarky Penguin

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By: Steve Bates https://whynow.dumka.us/2010/12/16/government-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-54615 Fri, 17 Dec 2010 16:16:38 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=18251#comment-54615 So… they can’t read WikiLeaks. But they can threaten a foreign national not under U.S. jurisdiction, a man not charged with breaking U.S. law, with assassination. Indeed, it seems they are encouraged to do exactly that. Presumption of innocence is a fiction, isn’t it? But don’t worry; soon enough they’ll figure out what to charge him with.

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