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Comments on: With Friends Like These … https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/02/08/with-friends-like-these-3/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Thu, 10 Feb 2011 02:19:35 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/02/08/with-friends-like-these-3/comment-page-1/#comment-55341 Thu, 10 Feb 2011 02:19:35 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=18939#comment-55341 Well, Badtux, they seem to be listening to you, as the strikes have started in the transportation industry with bus service in Cairo and the workers on the Suez Canal, which will really upset the “powers that be” inside and outside Egypt.

Of additional interest is the very limited participation by the Muslim Brotherhood. In addition to being late in supporting the protests, they have said they will not be part of any transition government, and won’t run a candidate for president. They seem to believe that possible gains aren’t worth the risks. The MB has problems of its own, as its membership is noticeably graying without many newer, younger members. It would seem that Egyptian youth have decided to be Egyptians first.

Sorry, Ame, but I’m not even mildly shocked that the Obama administration sent a lobbyist who works for Egypt to talk to Egypt. That’s how they handle almost everything. No one in White House has the first clue about the concept of “conflict of interest”.

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By: Ame https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/02/08/with-friends-like-these-3/comment-page-1/#comment-55340 Wed, 09 Feb 2011 19:03:40 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=18939#comment-55340 This isn’t helpful,
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/revealed-us-envoys-business-link-to-egypt-2206329.html

http://www.pattonboggs.com/fwisner/

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/02/08/with-friends-like-these-3/comment-page-1/#comment-55338 Wed, 09 Feb 2011 06:53:33 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=18939#comment-55338 The elephant in the picture that the Village appears to be ignoring is the fact that the U.S. has much more influence on what happens in Egypt than in Iran, because Egypt relies on the U.S. not only for billions of dollars in military assistance, but also parts and ammunition for its war machine. A quiet “you fire upon protesters with live ammo, and you’re cut off” behind the scenes may be an explanation *other* than the one about “the generals aren’t sure their soldiers would fire” for why the situation has not degenerated into outright slaughter.

That said, protests aren’t going to change anything, because protests make people feel good and make the rulers look bad but don’t do much to harm the interests of the rulers. I have been baffled for some time by the U.S. emphasis upon protests. When French workers are upset about benefits cuts or changes in labor laws or whatever, they don’t just politely march around in front of government buildings, they go on strike and they block the roads with their vehicles and they shut down the country and they don’t blink until they get at least some of what they want. But then, I suppose it helps that in France you have a legally-guaranteed right to your job and cannot be fired for going on strike, only for documented incompetence or malfeasance… but that wasn’t always the case, and French workers didn’t get that right written into their lawbooks by politely marching around in a public square with signs.

– Badtux the Puzzled Penguin

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