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Comments on: They Will Kill Us All https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/09/17/they-will-kill-us-all/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Fri, 23 Sep 2011 02:59:08 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: hipparchia https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/09/17/they-will-kill-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-57871 Fri, 23 Sep 2011 02:59:08 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=22821#comment-57871 i’m not the hand-holding type. scroll down to about the middle of the page and you will see two long narrow boxes containing text in red, blue, and black. copy the text in either one of those boxes into a comment here, post it, and see what happens. bryan can always delete your extraneous experimental comments if they get out of hand.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/09/17/they-will-kill-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-57870 Fri, 23 Sep 2011 00:37:49 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=22821#comment-57870 Mr. Duff, if you don’t want to be a ‘liar’ under your definition of the word, not mine, you might want to actually read the article about Gore for comprehension, as it specifically says that the government money is going to the utilities, not to the company that Gore invested in. I have pointed that out twice, and you insist on distorting the facts.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/09/17/they-will-kill-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-57863 Thu, 22 Sep 2011 03:17:04 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=22821#comment-57863 Mr. Duff, at no point in this thread did I call you a liar. I pointed out the factual errors in your comments.

“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.” [attributed to Daniel Patrick Moynihan]

Instead of addressing the errors, you became defensive, and even resorted to a non sequitur about Al Gore to deflect criticism, and even that was logically flawed. ‘Practicing what you preach’ and ‘putting your money where your mouth is’, are not hypocrisy or conflict of interest, but emblematic of someone who believes what they say.

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By: hipparchia https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/09/17/they-will-kill-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-57857 Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:03:30 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=22821#comment-57857 http://www.hyperlinkcode.com/make-hyperlink.php

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By: Steve Bates https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/09/17/they-will-kill-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-57855 Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:50:07 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=22821#comment-57855 Yes, you are doing something wrong, Fudd. Links can contain ordinary text for clarity about where they go, e.g., Duff’s blog. Learn how to do it… it’s not rocket science… or be thought somewhat less than civilized.

Duffer, you have quoted paid liars three times that I remember, including two about the BP disaster. I stand by my accusation: quoting a demonstrable paid liar is not morally superior to lying yourself. If you want us not to call you a liar, you really must find better sources. You are being willingly, knowingly led astray, in an era and on a medium in which there’s no excuse.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/09/17/they-will-kill-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-57852 Wed, 21 Sep 2011 03:29:19 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=22821#comment-57852 Mr. Duff, if you intended that to be a quote, you should have cited a source, which you didn’t. If no source is cited, no matter how you format it, it is your responsibility. As there was no PhD, it obviously wouldn’t have made any difference, because the information was factually wrong.

The tax dollars, as I already pointed out, are going to the utilities, and not to the vendor. The vendor might expect to make more sales, and will certainly highlight this in its annual report, but the Federal money is going to the utilities, and the utilities will decide how it is used.

There is no conflict of interest, Gore is investing his own money into conservation and energy efficiency, and not just talking about it.

The Department of Defense has already classified global climate change as a major threat to world stability based on its own research, and has been testing bio-fuels and solar energy to reduce costs and their carbon footprint. It is real, and no one cares if you want to commit suicide by ignoring it, we won’t join you to ensure future profits for the fossil fuel industry.

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By: Steve Bates https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/09/17/they-will-kill-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-57851 Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:45:38 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=22821#comment-57851 “I am happy to be proven wrong but not happy being accused of lying.”

One can… Duffer does… lie by quoting liars. Most often, Duffer quotes well-paid professional liars. For such lies the repeater is as guilty as the original liar. If you’re not willing to take responsibility for the “facts” you quote, you shouldn’t be quoting them.

“And, Batesy, do cheer up!”

And, Duffer, do fuck yourself!

(You still haven’t learned how to insert a link that shows as ordinary text. Lazy, aren’t you?)

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/09/17/they-will-kill-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-57844 Tue, 20 Sep 2011 04:42:31 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=22821#comment-57844 In reply to Steve Bates.

Nor claimed by conservative German politicians…

It is the requirement that you have to give up your autonomy to another person to do it that precluded my going for it. After the military I wasn’t ready to do that again.

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By: Steve Bates https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/09/17/they-will-kill-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-57841 Tue, 20 Sep 2011 02:30:17 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=22821#comment-57841 Bryan, I respect PhDs in large part because I barely had the patience to complete a Master’s, and I can only imagine the wear and tear on the soul of someone who does a degree that typically takes another four or so years of unrelenting stress. It’s almost too much. But it merits respect, presuming it is awarded by a genuine department at a genuine university, not the Duff Junior College of Wingnut Politics.

There are plenty of people who display great talent and admirable diligence who do not have academic degrees, e.g., jazz musicians before about the 1970s. But times have changed, degree requirements for faculty are the rule not the exception, and there is hardly any serious field of study… yes, most certainly including jazz… in which a PhD is not a prerequisite for someone in a faculty position. They should not be handed out wantonly by blog commenters.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/09/17/they-will-kill-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-57840 Tue, 20 Sep 2011 01:23:35 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=22821#comment-57840 In reply to Steve Bates.

Steve, I take PhDs seriously, because I know a lot of people who have busted their butts as slaves trying to complete the program and failed due to money problems. It is a grind and there is a lot of ramen soup involved as you do all of the grunt work for professors while attempting to complete your own research. The PhD requires original work, and some fields don’t lend themselves to it. In other fields, people see the equivalent of their thesis published by someone else when they are in the final stretch. It is a miserable life, and the people who complete the process deserve respect, even when they are total whackos when outside their field of study.

As an ‘Intelligent Design’ creationist, D’Aleo would have a difficult time finishing a scientific doctoral program.

Oh, to be clear, Mr. Duff awarded the degree. Mr. D’Aleo has made no such claim.

I have an innate dislike for propaganda – I was required to read the Soviet version for years, and the wingnuts haven’t improved the style.

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