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Comments on: Politics As Usual https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/10/24/politics-as-usual/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:31:45 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/10/24/politics-as-usual/comment-page-1/#comment-58126 Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:31:45 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=23383#comment-58126 In reply to Badtux.

The only people who really benefit from the attacks are the demonstrators, as it makes the demonstration impossible to ignore. The blocking of the media in Oakland makes it something the media will now cover, because they got stepped on.

The Albany police have been digging themselves out of a public relations hole that goes back decades, so they aren’t going to throw their progress away to please the politicians. It is impossible to police a city that hates you, as Oakland is finding out.

Boredom and bad weather are much better ways of dealing with crowds that force. From a budget standpoint, and I had to deal with the budget when I was in law enforcement, arresting people is expensive and time-consuming, so you don’t do it unless you have to. The overtime involved in maintaining patrols while officers go to court and sit around waiting to testify is a killer. Those election-year vice sweeps are absurdly expensive, and I stopped them by making them a separate budget line with the cost documented. Politicians don’t like it when they have to vote on items like that, and taxpayers sure as hell don’t.

NYC, Oakland, and the other ‘get tough’ jurisdictions’ better have a source to fund all the costs of this stupidity, because the issue will come up at election time, and the police chief in Albany just knocked the props out from under them.

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/10/24/politics-as-usual/comment-page-1/#comment-58125 Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:52:07 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=23383#comment-58125 Especially since Russian tactics will work just as well on the OWS protesters in the Northeast as they worked on Napoleon’s invading force. Do you *really* think protesters will be out there on the streets in -5F weather during a blizzard? The only *smart* strategy here if you’re one of our overlords with a police force at your disposal is “retreat, and wait for winter.” But nobody ever accused our cold-blooded lizard overlords from planet Sociopath of being smart — just of being venal.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/10/24/politics-as-usual/comment-page-1/#comment-58120 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 19:48:59 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=23383#comment-58120 Steve, Ryan is the Newt of the 21st century … 😉

Jams, the capitol area police departments are looking at their reduced budgets and know damn well they can’t afford to get involved in this mess, even if it wasn’t such a stupid idea in the first place.

Absolutely, Badtux, Cuomo the younger is a shill for the 1%.

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/10/24/politics-as-usual/comment-page-1/#comment-58118 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:19:12 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=23383#comment-58118 Of course Cuomo wants a riot, Jams. That would give him an excuse to do what he wants to do, which is to shove the crimes of Wall Street right under the rug again and concentrate on the crimes of those complaining about Wall Street’s crimes. Duh.

– Badtux the Crony Capitalist Scryin’ Penguin

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By: jams o donnell https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/10/24/politics-as-usual/comment-page-1/#comment-58117 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:06:13 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=23383#comment-58117 It was clear that the police in Albany had their heads in the real world. THat couldn’t be said for the politicos… Did Cuomo want a riot?

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By: Steve Bates https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/10/24/politics-as-usual/comment-page-1/#comment-58115 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 04:59:35 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=23383#comment-58115 Thrift? I’ll give Paul Ryan thort thrift…

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