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Comments on: In Other News https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/10/29/in-other-news-12/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:31:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/10/29/in-other-news-12/comment-page-1/#comment-58189 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:31:22 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=23466#comment-58189 “Once the weight of the paperwork equals the weight of the aircraft, we can fly.”

That’s an old line chief maxim from the Air Force, but it describes the ‘oversight solutions’ that are generally offered by ‘management’. People screw up or cheat in one place, so everyone gets a new form to fill out, and nothing is actually done about the people who caused the problem because the managers can’t or don’t want to take the time to actually do their job and supervise people. Everything is classified as a ‘problem with procedures’ not a real personnel problem.

We spend too much time watching insignificant amounts of money, while the big money isn’t monitored at all. The F-22 is still trying to suffocate pilots, but no child who doesn’t meet specific criteria is receiving a free lunch.

With costs going up, student aid disappearing, and salaries in retreat, no one can afford to become a teacher today. You can’t afford the cost of the loans on what a teacher makes, and they keep pushing the requirements higher.

You can’t defraud Medicare of billions and become governor of a state, but give a hungry child a meal, and you’ll never work again. This country has seriously screwed up priorities.

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/10/29/in-other-news-12/comment-page-1/#comment-58187 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:49:41 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=23466#comment-58187 Tell me about it. The consulting firm I once worked for was very cheap, they charged only $5,000 per year per school maintenance fee to handle all the state and federally required attendance and discipline data collection and reporting via their on-site computer systems. This on top of the cost of the computer systems and software themselves. Then the lunchroom system was similar. Then the special ed system was similar. The end result was that just for the yearly MAINTENANCE fees on these things, you could have hired another teacher at each school. Add up the amortized cost of the software and computer systems, and you could have hired *ANOTHER* teacher at each school.

Given that 99% of our students qualified for the free lunch program, we would have been much better off just saying, “Everybody gets a free lunch”, and doing away with that computer system altogether. But if we’d done that, then the Feds would have yanked our lunch money. The demographics / attendance / grades / transcript system was, alas, required for a reason — Louisiana was plagued by “ghost students” who got per-pupil funds but didn’t actually exist before they started tracking all this stuff via computer, some school districts lost 1/4th of their students compared to the previous year once the student tracking system was implemented (!!!!). (The majority of ghost students were students who’d been at a school in the district for at least one day of that school year, but had transferred out during the course of the school year and were properly credited to other districts for ADA purposes, but some were outright fraud). The discipline system was required because of parents involved with “civil rights” groups who kept suing the school districts for being mean to those poor innocent little black boys, everything had to be tracked via computer so that it could be verified that discipline offenses received equal treatment regardless of whether you were white or black, male or female. Thus the whole “Zero Tolerance” thing, which basically was forced onto the schools due to these lawsuits. Then there was the whole special education bureaucracy, when the reality is that for the majority of the students who were marked as “special ed”, they needed pretty much the same thing as the rest of the students — access to better methods of teaching reading and/or arithmetic. (Note that the majority of students who are “special” in today’s schools are *not* retarded or autistic, they are “learning disabled”, a vague notion that basically boils down to “didn’t learn how to read via the same methods used for the rest of his classmates”). But getting them formally designated as “special” via a very expensive assessment process and expensive IEP process was the only way to get the federal funding to give them the help they should have gotten just as a matter of course, if the schools had been adequately funded and staffed in the first place…

I was one of the last echelon of students taught by the stereotypical old lady spinster teachers (why, some of my teachers were as old as 40 years old! 🙂 ), before the women’s right movement got women the right to work at professional jobs beyond nurse and teacher. Schools could pick the best and brightest young women to be teachers back then. Today… not so much. Add in persistent underfunding and you can understand how so many people can be so stupid…

– Badtux the WASF Penguin

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/10/29/in-other-news-12/comment-page-1/#comment-58184 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 04:25:28 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=23466#comment-58184 The anti-intellectualism in the US is a societal disease. On the one hand we demand all kinds of training for teachers, but then we refuse to pay them for the training or to give them the tools they need to teach.

We waste so much money regulating schools with administrators and standardized tests, that would be better spent paying for actual teaching.

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By: Steve Bates https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/10/29/in-other-news-12/comment-page-1/#comment-58183 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 04:11:47 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=23466#comment-58183 I think that sound I just heard was both my parents’ ashes turning over in their respective urns. Two schoolteachers would be horrified if they were alive to see the atrocities perpetrated against the education of children.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/10/29/in-other-news-12/comment-page-1/#comment-58181 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 03:45:38 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=23466#comment-58181 In reply to Badtux.

Down here you make more working day labor, than substitute teaching, but the lottery money is buying e-books [maybe Kindles] for students so the district doesn’t have to buy textbooks. Tell me this makes sense.

They want everyone in a student loan program so the banks will own them for life.

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/10/29/in-other-news-12/comment-page-1/#comment-58180 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:07:23 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=23466#comment-58180 Yeppers, tuition at California public universities — err, “fees” (because tuition at state universities is explicitly prohibited by the California Constitution 😕 ) have gone through the roof because Californians don’t want to pay taxes (on a per capita percent of income basis California is around #25 in taxation) yet want all these services, meaning that tuition, err, fees, goes up every year, and the number of classes offered goes down every year, meaning it takes at *least* six years to graduate because the courses you need to graduate aren’t scheduled any more often than that. No, I’m not joking. I wish I was :(.

Steve, I went to college when kids from a poor family could get 100% of tuition and books paid for by Pell grants. Nowadays, Pell grant awards for poor kids might buy *one* textbook, nevermind tuition. And since poor kids generally have a sketchy education due to cut after cut at the local school districts that they attend school at, they generally don’t qualify for scholarships.

Republicans are always whining that poor kids should pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Well, it’d help if the Republicans would quit taking away the bookstraps to give tax breaks to the 1%, leaving nothing for the p0or to pull themselves up with…

– Badtux the “Students are screwed” Penguin

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/10/29/in-other-news-12/comment-page-1/#comment-58178 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 01:02:41 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=23466#comment-58178 It isn’t just students, Steve, the benefits for recent veterans are also piddling compared to mine, which were a step down from what people received coming out of WWII.

Tuition and health care have both risen at multiples above the average cost of living. Anything that benefited the 99% has been slashed to give tax breaks to the 1%.

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By: Steve Bates https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/10/29/in-other-news-12/comment-page-1/#comment-58177 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 01:01:19 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=23466#comment-58177 I don’t think I’ve ever heard a repeat from Radio Swiss Jazz. And their taste in jazz is typically excellent. The programming varies with time of day… big band, small combo, vocal… but their selection is almost always high quality stuff.

There are hundreds of stations out there. IIRC, you can even listen to Houston’s Pacifica station, KPFT, online. Not that you’d want to… 🙂

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By: Steve Bates https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/10/29/in-other-news-12/comment-page-1/#comment-58175 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:56:10 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=23466#comment-58175 As to student loans, I must have headed to college at exactly the right time. Being a kid from a lower-income family, each year I attended, I was granted a full scholarship from the university itself. At the end of my five-year program, I had a professional Master’s, a job lined up… and zero debt. Ah, those were the days! I really feel sorry for the students today.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2011/10/29/in-other-news-12/comment-page-1/#comment-58174 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:53:48 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=23466#comment-58174 In reply to Badtux.

It should at least offer more than 40 songs in one of a half-dozen prepackaged formats, none of which I like.

Since none of the local stations offer news or weather except when there’s a hurricane, I may as well shift. I should at least be able to find some jazz or classical out there, as well as real ‘classic rock’.

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