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Comments on: Glub, Glub, Glub https://whynow.dumka.us/2012/08/18/glub-glub-glub/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Wed, 22 Aug 2012 05:05:42 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2012/08/18/glub-glub-glub/comment-page-1/#comment-60332 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 05:05:42 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=26374#comment-60332 I used to have a shelter half/poncho that worked well for walking around, but I got rid of it because I couldn’t take the odor. I don’t know what caused it to smell, but nothing would reduce it to an acceptable level.

I’ll probably give the Driducks a try, since it won’t break my budget.

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2012/08/18/glub-glub-glub/comment-page-1/#comment-60331 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 02:57:37 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=26374#comment-60331 Bryan, the Driducks aren’t really durable regardless of which one you buy. FIgure you’ll spend $20 a season on rain gear with them. They can be patched with duct tape but no sealer will stick to them due to the polyethylene fiber being very slippery (basically the same stuff soda bottles are made of) — the seams are heat-sealed.

I learned about Driducks for backpacking, because they’re lighter than any other rain gear you can buy and actually work reasonably well when you’re exerting yourself as well as when you’re in camp. Their sizing is very large, but that’s good because it allows them to ventilate well, they don’t have any actual vents. The cheaper one actually ventilates better due to the button closures and the lack of elastic at the wrist and waistband. They’re sold around here at hunting supply stores (what you called “sporting goods stores” there in Floriduh before, apparently, they all went out of business). Their Achilles heel is, again, durability. A week’s worth of hiking and they start looking like duct tape jackets. Thus why I invested in a REI EVENT jacket, which works better than Gore-Tex. Usually the only place that gets wet is my lower arms, mostly because of water wicking up the sleeve. But for around town, where you aren’t getting snagged by bushes and brambles, the Dri-Ducks work even better than EVENT (I *never* got wet in the Dri-Ducks) and are decidedly much cheaper.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2012/08/18/glub-glub-glub/comment-page-1/#comment-60328 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 22:39:49 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=26374#comment-60328 If I was further North it would work, but it is just too humid for waxed cotton down here. Yep, Akubra makes nice hats, and I have a fur felt Resistol that would work. but my Tilley is a lot cooler for this climate, and shed water well.

I have a waxed cotton fedora for the winter that works a treat.

I think that just wearing cotton and ignoring rain is the best solution for the interim.

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By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2012/08/18/glub-glub-glub/comment-page-1/#comment-60327 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 12:29:51 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=26374#comment-60327 Hmmm… The only thing I kept (that was worth keeping) from my army days, was my slouch hat, made by Akubra. Still serves me well. 🙂 Well, I kept one other thing, a damned good survival/rescue knife and sheath! 😉

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By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2012/08/18/glub-glub-glub/comment-page-1/#comment-60326 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 11:58:30 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=26374#comment-60326 One. Word. Driza-Bone

The saved the skin of me and my men in Cambodia, and work great down under! 😉 😀

Hey… they were good enough for your Prez and the other APEC Leaders when they were here. Just sayin… LOL

Oh, and top it off with an Akubra Hat, worn by world leaders and most of Hollywood for decades! LOL

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2012/08/18/glub-glub-glub/comment-page-1/#comment-60325 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 04:23:14 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=26374#comment-60325 In reply to Badtux.

Well, I pretty much figured out that Gore-Tex didn’t work by wearing the sucker and getting sweat-soaked, so I stopped wearing it. I forget how I got it, probably a gift, but I know I didn’t buy it, especially after looking at what the thing costs retail. For the prices there should have been a couple of fitting involved and my name embroidered on the inside.

Driducks seem to have two types, so I may try the more expensive, but apparently more durable type, or just start wearing a wetsuit.

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2012/08/18/glub-glub-glub/comment-page-1/#comment-60324 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 04:02:25 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=26374#comment-60324 Bryan, Gore-Tex doesn’t work. Period. When you look at the actual science, Gore-Tex requires the humidity inside the rain jacket to equal the condensation point of the air outside the rain jacket. This condenses the humidity on the inner polyester coating, which then evaporates it to the outside via the pores in the teflon mesh. Well, given that the air outside the rain jacket has a condensation point of somewhere around 99.9F, you can see why it never actually moves any vapor in your climate :twisted:.

EVENT and Driducks’ non-woven PE fabric use a different mechanism. They omit the polyester coating entirely, allowing water vapor to pass right through the fine mesh of the fabric, which is however too fine to allow liquid water to come through. They work *much* better than Gore-Tex, which is 99.9% hype. Well, while they’re clean, anyhow. Once the pores get clogged with dirt they’re useless. But that’s when you wash them.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2012/08/18/glub-glub-glub/comment-page-1/#comment-60315 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 01:16:31 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=26374#comment-60315 “Quality of service”? From a cell phone company? Surely you jest 😈

The doggie method requires loose skin and hair, so I’m out of luck.

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By: ellroon https://whynow.dumka.us/2012/08/18/glub-glub-glub/comment-page-1/#comment-60314 Sun, 19 Aug 2012 23:34:56 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=26374#comment-60314 Temporary solution? Ziplock bag for your electronics and wallet. I put everybody’s into a plastic bag when we visit the beach. Water and sand in your cell phone affects quality of service. 😛 But then again, maybe we should try and learn from doggies

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2012/08/18/glub-glub-glub/comment-page-1/#comment-60311 Sun, 19 Aug 2012 21:25:29 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=26374#comment-60311 I have a Gore-Tex rain jacket and it doesn’t help. It’s better than my heavyweight rain jacket, but you still sweat in it.

Yeah, I have a ‘golf’ umbrella for those events, but my hat is most of the ‘protection’ I need. If it was cold, I have a Land’s End slicker with a fleece lining, but that isn’t appropriate for July and August.

What we really need is a rain repulsion device, but it would probably attract a lightning discharge, so cotton clothes and boat shoes are the best choice overall.

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