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Comments on: FCC Gets It Right https://whynow.dumka.us/2014/10/04/fcc-gets-it-right/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Tue, 07 Oct 2014 20:06:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2014/10/04/fcc-gets-it-right/comment-page-1/#comment-72386 Tue, 07 Oct 2014 20:06:41 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=33925#comment-72386 The incident was at a convention/conference at a Marriott and people may have been flooding telcom customer service lines over their failing WiFi. It may have been the telcoms who filed the complaint or a vendor at the conference.

Yeah, we got our visit after we bought a new radio system in the 1970s and started running at the full authorized power level to maintain comms despite a lot of reinforced concrete in the environment, which was the main reason for the new system.

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2014/10/04/fcc-gets-it-right/comment-page-1/#comment-72354 Tue, 07 Oct 2014 05:04:59 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=33925#comment-72354 I still remember back in the 1970’s when the FCC actively enforced things. Then Reagan took over and virtually eliminated the enforcement division ’cause we don’t need no steenkin’ regulations, just a 500 ship Navy complete with 40 year old battleships, yo. Over in the ham radio arena, hams are very upset because they have done the hard work of identifying “jammers”, unlicensed operators who buy ham rigs from one of the big mail order outlets and then use their new ham rigs to make ham frequencies as unusable as CB radio is nowadays, and then the FCC doesn’t give them the time of day when they give the FCC everything the FCC would need to successfully prosecute the jammer, including the name of the rogue operator, his address, the location of his radio equipment, a complete log of his transmissions, etc. And on the rare occasions that the FCC does issue a fine, the rogue operator just ignores it and doesn’t pay the fine, and the FCC does nothing about that either.

So color me *very* surprised that the FCC took this action against Marriott. Marriott must have peeved someone with a ton of political clout and more lobbyists on staff than Marriott has, that’s all I can figure…

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2014/10/04/fcc-gets-it-right/comment-page-1/#comment-72343 Tue, 07 Oct 2014 01:14:55 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=33925#comment-72343 The regulators didn’t have much of a choice, as the complainant figured out what Marriott was doing, and it was too obvious for the FCC to ignore. They probably took one of their tech vans out and looked at the area to see what was going on, so they had a record of the violation.

When I was in law enforcement they visited our base station in response to a complaint about interference. They determined the problem was with the frequency accuracy of the complainant’s equipment and not with our transmitter. They were dinged for infringing on our frequency, but we didn’t actually notice because our equipment filtered them out.

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By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2014/10/04/fcc-gets-it-right/comment-page-1/#comment-72336 Mon, 06 Oct 2014 22:36:13 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=33925#comment-72336 Isn’t it nice when a regulator does something right? It’s so rare these days! And usually by accident. This was done right I think. 🙂

I guess ‘Marriott’ isn’t high up on the ‘Friends of Politicians’ list! LOL

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2014/10/04/fcc-gets-it-right/comment-page-1/#comment-72281 Mon, 06 Oct 2014 01:32:15 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=33925#comment-72281 In reply to Badtux.

Hmm, doing it they way they did made it even more obvious that they were jamming. Over powering could be covered as an ‘innocent equipment malfunction’. They have also attracted the attention of the Canadian regulators who have issued a caution but don’t have a complaint to work with.

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2014/10/04/fcc-gets-it-right/comment-page-1/#comment-72245 Sun, 05 Oct 2014 07:01:32 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=33925#comment-72245 Nope, they didn’t ramp up the power on their WiFi system, instead they sent rogue “disconnect” messages to interrupt the WiFi connection. Apparently they are running software that will force disconnects of unwanted WiFi connections from their own access points (how they enforce their charges for their access points, apparently), and discovered that it will also force disconnects of unwanted WiFi connections with *other* access points because apparently the low-level WiFi protocol does no authentication of the origin access point when it gets a disconnect message. So then they added some access points that did nothing but frequency-hop and send disconnect messages to any WiFi connection that wasn’t going to one of their “official” access points.

This of course is “jamming” as defined by the FCC, and thus illegal — it’s deliberately interfering with radio transmissions that have nothing to do with you and are not interfering with you (since WiFi is designed to operate on shared bandwidth). But hey, we don’t need regulation of things like this because the magic of the free market will make them stop doing it, just like it stopped child labor and black lung disease [/snark].

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