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Comments on: Siege In Sydney https://whynow.dumka.us/2014/12/14/siege-in-sydney/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Fri, 19 Dec 2014 04:42:30 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2014/12/14/siege-in-sydney/comment-page-1/#comment-75349 Fri, 19 Dec 2014 04:42:30 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=34265#comment-75349 You get the same effect of boiler fouling in this area because the drinking water is mineral heavy in calcium and iron. Water heaters lose efficiency and pipes get clogged by the deposits. In a bit of irony, the soft water systems that combat that problem use salt tablets in the process.

The Peru installations are large and they are used with whatever water this available in the mountains for villages. They have barren land that doesn’t support any kind of vegetation, so they use that.

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2014/12/14/siege-in-sydney/comment-page-1/#comment-75326 Thu, 18 Dec 2014 17:42:31 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=34265#comment-75326 The problem with boiler-type desalination schemes is that the boiler swiftly becomes salt-encrusted, eventually losing its ability to boil water. I don’t see anything in their 3d model that will deal with this. Are they applying the heat radiatively from the top? I can’t tell.

What this may be more useful for is dealing with the contaminated groundwater in much of India. Much of India’s groundwater is contaminated with levels of various industrial chemicals that are lethal over time. Much of India’s population has no choice but to drink that groundwater, since any surface waters are so contaminated with human wastes that drinking them is often much more immediately fatal.

Regarding the black trays with glass tops or the plastic inflatable things, the heat is being applied radiatively from the top, thus any salt encrustation on the bottom is irrelevant. The main problem is that the amount of heat that can be applied to the water is not sufficient to get more than a pint or two of water per day out of it in most climates. That may or may not be sufficient to sustain life, depending upon how many of these gizmos you have…

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2014/12/14/siege-in-sydney/comment-page-1/#comment-75324 Thu, 18 Dec 2014 16:59:48 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=34265#comment-75324 I noticed that one of your gun nut politicians said that this wouldn’t have happened if Australia had the ready availability of weapons they have in the US state, Texas. I think he might want to do a search on ‘Texas + mass shootings’ before he says something that stupid in public. If there had been someone with a gun among the hostages there would have certainly been more than three deaths, and since shots fired is a trip wire for the police to attack, whoever the ‘heroic armed civilian’ was, the responding police officers who have certainly killed him/her. It was crowded and there was no way of firing at the gunman without endangering innocent people. Gun nuts think that guns are a magical device that can solve all problems. Real life doesn’t work that way. Guns aren’t a feature – they’re a bug…

I looked at the criteria and Mr Johnson seems to meet the conditions, but the other hostages need to tell authorities what happened in the cafe, as Ms Dawson’s actions might merit the award as well.

As for the water distiller, there are a lot of devices that can be used that can be made locally – essentially black trays with glass tops that use gravity instead of motors to move the water. Other than the glass and the stainless steel collection pans, all you need is wood and black paint. There are hundreds of them in use in Peru. We had an inflatable device in our survival kits that would distill water, for use in water crashes.

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By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2014/12/14/siege-in-sydney/comment-page-1/#comment-75312 Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:38:41 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=34265#comment-75312 Here’s another petition regarding this, and more info on the perpetrator. Seems this tragedy could have been prevented after all.

After the Sydney siege we have learnt this man was let out on bail after facing accessory to murder charges and about 40 sexual assault charges.

Bail laws were meant to have been changed already, but “administrative bungles” have stalled them until late January. That’s not good enough. We need stronger bail laws that would have kept this dangerous man behind bars right now.

OT: we were discussing desalination a while back. I found an interesting portable desal project being crowdfunded. I’m considering supporting it, but need to look into it some more before I commit. I’ve emailed some questions about it (from an industrial Engineering standpoint). 🙂 See what reply I get. 😉 I mentioned I wasn’t impressed by getting a patent approved, since several people have had patents approved for inventing a wheel for example, and most issued these day’s aren’t worth the paper to print them on. 🙂

Desolenator: transforming sunshine into water

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By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2014/12/14/siege-in-sydney/comment-page-1/#comment-75304 Thu, 18 Dec 2014 05:25:05 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=34265#comment-75304 I, going through 3 days of email’s and just saw a petition (which already has over 14,000 sig’s) for Abbott to award Tori Johnson the Cross of Valour. It’s disgusting that Abbott even needs a petition to consider it! But then, he has no honor, so i shouldn’t be surprised. I’m sure he’s accept any award salivating and with both dirty, greedy hands out!

Tony Abbott: Award Tori Johnson the Cross of Valour for helping save lives from the Sydney siege gunman

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By: Kryten42 https://whynow.dumka.us/2014/12/14/siege-in-sydney/comment-page-1/#comment-75303 Thu, 18 Dec 2014 05:04:25 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=34265#comment-75303 OT: I’ve been busy elsewhere the past few days. 🙂 I suspected that was the case Bryan. No problem. 🙂

I saw we should try torture on Hasselbeck and the other co-morons and see if they can say anything intelligent! I’d humbly volunteer my well trained services! A worthy cause for me to temporarily come out of retirement! 😆 Of course, no useful intel would be gained, but for once, it would serve an educational purpose… and be fun (well, not for them)! 😛

Sadly Bryan, I think that deaths were unavoidable. I suspect that Monis had already decided to be a Martyr, as many misguided fools such as he believe. It could have been worse than two civilians, but it’s always tragic. I think you are correct about your assessment, and the manager Tori Johnson decided he had nothing to lose. A brave man. Perhaps he and Katrina Dawson decided together to stop him. Hopefully the remaining hostages can shed light on that.

Before Christians & Jews start yelling “exterminate all Muslims”! They should have a good hard look at their own houses and give them a good clean! But then, that would mean them being honest. Something I’ve not seen wither religion display, and history shows honesty isn’t really part of their respective codes. As Gandhi said “I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.”

There are of course exceptions to all that, but not many. In the case of crazy people who use the Muslim faith as an excuse to be evil, that’s a good thing.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2014/12/14/siege-in-sydney/comment-page-1/#comment-75255 Wed, 17 Dec 2014 03:29:32 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=34265#comment-75255 In reply to Badtux.

The guy was a garden variety violent misogynist who was facing serious prison time and wanted to politicize the prosecution to muddy the waters. Torture has never produced anything that was worthwhile up to now, so claiming it would help to fight terrorism is a claim supported by the misinformed, sadists, and racists, or a case of all three when it is Faux News.

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2014/12/14/siege-in-sydney/comment-page-1/#comment-75242 Tue, 16 Dec 2014 17:25:13 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=34265#comment-75242 Sadly, Elisabeth Hasselbeck on Faux News then used this as an excuse for torture. Because of course a crazed loner storming into a business with a weapon can be headed off by torture if you torture his co-conspirators before the hostage situation begins. What? You say he had no co-conspirators? Heresy, heresy I say! Those people (you know, THOSE people) are all in it together to get us! Clearly the answer was to pick up a random brown-skinned person off the streets somewhere and torture him for the details of the next terrorist strike by THOSE people before it happened!

SIGH.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2014/12/14/siege-in-sydney/comment-page-1/#comment-75232 Tue, 16 Dec 2014 04:12:31 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=34265#comment-75232 OT: I am beginning to believe that the spam software is reacting to your anonymizing rather than anything in your posts, because nothing in the your second comment met any of the spam criteria, so it must be checking back links to your computer which will fail.

Don’t sweat it, I catch them and approve them. 🙂

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2014/12/14/siege-in-sydney/comment-page-1/#comment-75230 Tue, 16 Dec 2014 03:48:14 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=34265#comment-75230 I have been following the story on ABC. The police say they went in with flash-bang grenades and an all out assault after they heard shots fired inside the cafe. The manager apparently died struggling with the gunman over control of the weapon which would make me believe that the gunman had already decided kill people, so the manager had nothing to lose. It will take autopsies to figure out who killed the three people, but if shots were heard before the police went in, the hostages were probably killed by the gunman.

These situations are always a mess, no matter what the responders do. The gunman had to be getting tired and didn’t get the public media access to spread his excuses for being a murderous bastard. This wasn’t political, the guy was out on bail facing a number of violent charges, including involvement in the death of his ex-wife, so this behavior is consistent for him. Being a ‘cleric’ only means that he has the equivalent of a bachelor’s degree from a Shiia university. I doubt he had many followers or a regular mosque where he preached. He was facing prison and wanted to be considered oppressed by system or a martyr, rather than the dirtbag he was.

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