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Comments on: Not Backing Down? https://whynow.dumka.us/2015/09/14/not-backing-down/ On-line Opinion Magazine...OK, it's a blog Wed, 16 Sep 2015 17:20:05 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2015/09/14/not-backing-down/comment-page-1/#comment-79752 Wed, 16 Sep 2015 17:20:05 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=35720#comment-79752 When you start off doing it in elementary school it becomes a habit … like heroine or crack 👿

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By: paintedjaguar https://whynow.dumka.us/2015/09/14/not-backing-down/comment-page-1/#comment-79748 Wed, 16 Sep 2015 12:55:35 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=35720#comment-79748 I was brought up Southern Baptist — in Vacation Bible School the Pledge of Allegiance was followed by a Pledge to the Christian Flag. I know the territory. Even so I literally just can’t wrap my head around people who think this is appropriate behaviour. A non-church related grief group? Really?? And my right wing sister gets offended when I call these people parochial?

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2015/09/14/not-backing-down/comment-page-1/#comment-79745 Tue, 15 Sep 2015 20:37:22 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=35720#comment-79745 PJ, we both know that nothing happens down here of any significance that isn’t preceded by a prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance. If you aren’t an evangelical Christian you have to accept being constantly dissed down here. They get really annoyed if you point out that Jesus declared public prayer hypocrisy; oaths are generally a violation of “Thou shall not take the name of the Lord, thy God, in vain”; and pork and shrimp are abominations. 😈

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By: paintedjaguar https://whynow.dumka.us/2015/09/14/not-backing-down/comment-page-1/#comment-79741 Tue, 15 Sep 2015 17:57:14 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=35720#comment-79741 No, but it’s right there, see? “So help me God”. How can you say that’s not religious? Right? Right?

Seriously, this is why strict church/state separation is important. A lot of people, even a lot of atheists, will say that it’s no big deal, just let the Xtians have their symbolisms. Maybe those people need to spend a few years living in the Bible Belt where religiosity is injected into every crevice of everyday life, including vital public services, news outlets and so-called non-sectarian NGO’s. For instance, not too long ago I attended a social evening sponsored by a non-profit & “secular” grief support group. The function opened with an evangelical prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance, I kid you not.

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By: Bryan https://whynow.dumka.us/2015/09/14/not-backing-down/comment-page-1/#comment-79740 Tue, 15 Sep 2015 16:08:16 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=35720#comment-79740 A marriage license is essentially the same thing as “posting the banns”, a public announcement that two people are going to be married, so the public has an opportunity to protest. All it really requires from a clerk is to witness the statement that the applicants swore they were old enough and weren’t already married.

Witnessing an affidavit, what issuing a marriage license amounts to, isn’t a religious experience in any way, shape, or form.

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By: Badtux https://whynow.dumka.us/2015/09/14/not-backing-down/comment-page-1/#comment-79737 Tue, 15 Sep 2015 05:00:36 +0000 http://whynow.dumka.us/?p=35720#comment-79737 LOL! Yes, your last sentence is exactly what I noticed too :). So now it appears all she can do is whine “the licenses aren’t valid!” while her office fills them out and files them. Apparently her weekend in jail was enough to convince her she didn’t want more, heh!

My understanding is that the actual marriage certificate issued to the partners is of only ceremonial value anyhow — what truly counts is the entry of the marriage into the central computerized marriage registry at the Office of Vital Statistics, which is where the “real” record is kept for state purposes, and which is where other states would send requests for marriage information if there was a question as to whether a couple was married or not. As long as the Office of Vital Statistics accepts the entry, it’s a “real” marriage under Kentucky law, paper certificate nonwithstanding.

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