Comments on: I’m Still Around

By: Bryan

Bryan — Wed, 10 Aug 2016 02:24:16 +0000

Dr Stein’s objection was to the lack of a medical exemption, not to a lack of a belief exemption. Egg allergies are quite common in the US and can cause severe reactions. The problem is that people like absolutist answers, and life rarely works that way.

There used to be immunization requirements to travel abroad. You had to carry your yellow shot record with your passport. Apparently that is no longer the case. Standards are falling…

By: Badtux

Badtux — Tue, 09 Aug 2016 06:37:56 +0000

Thus the words “near-universal”. If you have sufficient people vaccinated — around 98% or so — it becomes difficult for disease to be transmitted and it dies out before it reaches those who cannot be vaccinated due to medical reasons. See: “Herd immunity”.

By: Bryan

Bryan — Sun, 07 Aug 2016 01:13:37 +0000

There have to be medical exemptions because the egg allergy really takes out a lot of shots and the horse serum allergy knocks one the big ones of the list. But these are medical exemptions, not some guy on the ‘Net said your genitals would shrink if you take the shots – that’s only true if the shots are anabolic steroids.

By: Badtux

Badtux — Sat, 06 Aug 2016 20:36:40 +0000

Thing is, if you flossed, you weren’t doing active harm to yourself. The same is not true if you refuse to get your child vaccinated, you are doing harm to that child if that child comes down with a preventable disease and has his or her health permanently damaged.

The thing about anthrax is that it doesn’t pass from human to human very easily. The only way for a human to catch it (other than biological warfare) is if the human is in close contact with cows or sheep on an extended basis. That doesn’t describe most of us. The diseases for which children are routinely vaccinated, on the other hand, *do* pass from human to human very easily, which is why near-universal vaccination is necessary to keep them from causing mass outbreaks.

By: Bryan

Bryan — Sat, 06 Aug 2016 01:05:32 +0000

Flossing is just the latest in a long list of “Never mind’s that we have gotten from medical professionals. Because I was flying world on a monthly basis, if there was an immunization I got it and our aircraft got fumigated at various landing sites. I have three visible smallpox scars and one that has faded. That said, I wouldn’t willingly take the anthrax vaccine – there hasn’t been enough testing and there are plenty of known bad reactions.

I had the measles, mumps, and most of the other “childhood” diseases and no one wants them. If you have never had them or had the shots, get the shots, because they are worse if you get them as an adult. and you damn sure don”t want to give any of them to your kids or grandkids.

By: Badtux

Badtux — Sat, 06 Aug 2016 00:53:20 +0000

I trust the FDA more than I trust the drug companies or the anti-science crowd. Of course, I’m always reminded of Ronald Reagan’s statement about trust — “trust, but verify”.

By: hipparchia

hipparchia — Sat, 06 Aug 2016 00:40:05 +0000

http://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/2014/04/oped1-1404.html

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/21298130/ns/health-health_care/t/new-fda-drug-center-raises-ethical-questions/#.V6Uuc8pTEuI

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMhle1409465

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/08/120822181226.htm

no reason to be skeptical about the fda, none at all. . . . 😈 or politicians either, for that matter

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/06/04/rick_perrys_gardasil_problem_110089.html

By: Bryan

Bryan — Fri, 05 Aug 2016 03:43:54 +0000

I am all for vaccines and medication that work, but taking care of my Mother and the various medications she dealt with, I have no trust in the FDA. I would suggest that the author of the ScienceBlog article review the drugs and vaccines approved in the last 20 years and explain where any confidence is warranted.

As for allowing a medical excuse for vaccinations, if you are allergic to eggs or horse serum there are vaccinations you cannot take.

By: hipparchia

hipparchia — Fri, 05 Aug 2016 01:19:51 +0000

probably the most reasoned (instead of knee-jerk) piece calling her an antivaxxer —

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2016/08/01/jill-stein-and-left-wing-antivaccine-dog-whistles/

By: hipparchia

hipparchia — Fri, 05 Aug 2016 01:12:33 +0000

https://shadowproof.com/2016/08/02/jill-stein-smeared-anti-vaccine-crank-sanders-supporters-consider-alternative-clinton/

yeah, I didn’t think she was really an antivaxxer either.