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This report was filed at Media Matters the day before the incident at the ABC town hall meeting that resulted in Mr. Fuller being sent for an evaluation: Arizona Shooting Victim Criticizes Palin, Beck and Fox News
Eric Fuller, a 63-year-old Navy veteran who was shot in the knee and received fragments in the back last Saturday, said the rhetoric of Sarah Palin and others can impact “demented” people like suspect Jared Loughner.
Fuller, who said he has been interviewed by several national news outlets, added he would not appear on Fox News if they sought him, predicting it “might develop into a screaming session.” He added: “I don’t like what they’re selling.”
…Fuller, who said he suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder, is a disabled U.S. Navy veteran.
He said he drove himself to the hospital after the shooting and has been visited by numerous reporters and news outlets at his home …
Veterans, especially those dealing with PTSD, don’t like people pointing guns at them, and are not receptive to those who advocate violence and guns as political solutions.
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(Totally OT, but I can’t find the original post in which we discussed latency in online markets, and this seems highly relevant to that topic. H/T Bruce Schneier.)
This was the post, and this is what Goldman Sachs and others do to “game” the market, rather than investing.
The strategy of placing many thousands of bids/asks per second, far from the market line and hence guaranteed to be rejected, seems peculiar to me. It must be that the only thing they care about is the lag time to process a bid/ask request and respond, and they do it at tiny time intervals in an ultimate attempt to “time the market” … once they see a response time that they think can’t be beaten by either a human trader or another algorithm (perhaps running on equipment not so closely connected to the market servers), they can launch a serious bid or ask to get in ahead of everybody. I’m sure I’m missing something, but I don’t see what it is. Sorry to continue this seriously OT discussion, but I’d like to know your thoughts on the matter.
Back on topic… my uncle (my father’s brother) was a W.W. II paratrooper and ended up with what we today would call PTSD. Dad was afraid to sleep in the same room with him when they came home after the war, because his brother had combat dreams which he got out of bed and acted out in his sleep. It’s scary stuff. I hope this fellow gets the help he needs.
He is being treated for the PTSD, but getting shot is a definite set back for treatment. It is analogous to treating someone for paranoia who suddenly starts receiving death threats – you have to go back several steps and hope you can move forward again.
I had a roommate for one semester in college who was a Green Beret and arrived on campus 48 hours after he left Vietnam. That was an interesting experience. I at least could speak the language because I was a military brat, and could connect him with some VA help in the area.
After World War II they at least had the time on the transports to decompress, not that it helped everyone, as your uncle proved, but it took the edge off for a lot of people. When people are going from combat to the “normal” world in hours, there is no time to come down.
OT: They are actually looking at two major issues, the timing on the system so they know they can’t be preempted, and the trend in the orders. If someone nibbles at one of their absurd bids it is a clue to a swing, which is where the real money is made. It can be used to establish the absolutely highest price and the absolutely lowest, enabling you to maximize the profit of your trade. You sell at or near the peak, and buy down in the valley. Of course, this is being done by software, and can cause a cascading effect on the system. The pricing has nothing to do with the actual value of the stock, only with the movement in the price.
The entire thing is divorced from the corporations that the stocks represent, which is why CEOs get calls from analysts about big swings in stock price, and don’t have a clue as to why it happened. It is especially obvious when a corporation releases some really great news, like a major contract, and the stock falls. The common excuse for the behavior is that the gain that should have been there had already been “anticipated” by the market, so the news was anticlimactic.
Wall Street has nothing to do with real business, it is just a very high stakes casino, with the standard game being a distorted version of liars poker.
Uhm, sorry, Sarah Palin, Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, etc. have all said to *ME* that they want me dead. D E A D. I don’t take death threats lightly, and I’ll apologize for calling them creators of an environment that sends crazy people off the deep end into assassination attempts against liberals once they apologize to *ME* for threatening my fine-feathered ass.
In other words, Mr. Duff, you can kiss my fine feathered ass. I sure ain’t gonna apologize for calling death threats against me and mine from the likes of the people I list above unwarranted, uncalled for, and un-American. As I’ve pointed out time after time, right-wing terrorism has killed thousands of Americans over the past twenty years. So I call bullshit on the notion that them calling for my death is “just joking”. And I sure ain’t gonna apologize to those assholes, yo.
– Badtux the Rude Penguin
Mr. Fuller acted like a civilized adult and apologized for overstepping the norms.
The wingnuts haven’t.
The wingnuts have been threatening people for years, and when they are called on it, they turn up the rhetoric, and whinge about “persecution”.
We had two Sheriff’s deputies murdered by a gun-slinging wingnut in my county, and three people associated with family planning clinics murdered in my area, so don’t talk to me about “both sides do it”.
Only one side is inciting people to violence, and then advocating that people need guns to protect themselves. It is obvious where the violence against people is coming from, and it isn’t from people who want universal health care and good schools.
Mr. Fuller acted like a civilized adult and apologized for overstepping the norms.
The wingnuts haven’t.
The wingnuts have been threatening people for years, and when they are called on it, they turn up the rhetoric, and whinge about “persecution”.
Exactly correct Bryan. But we all knew that anyway. 😉 Here is a perfect example of this from Jon Stewart (this has to be one of his best shows so far this year! Truly!) 😉
Petty Woman
Credit for Sarah Palin’s recovery from being unfairly linked to the Tucson shootings has to go to her nurse, Sean Hannity. (08:01)
Jon promises Sarah Palin a classy conversation and reveals his love for Neil deGrasse Tyson.
I know, I know!! It’s two of the worst excuses for human beings in existence! But you have to watch it. 😀 It’s too funny! 😆 (well, I laughed!) 😛
Besides… it has an interview with one of the far more interesting examples of a human on the planet! 😀
TDS – January 18, 2011 – Neil deGrasse Tyson
Thankfully, we’ll NEVER have to worry about Palin ever appearing on TDS, because, as we know, the rightwingnuts all have one other (probably genetically inherited) trait in common… they are abject cowards. 🙂
OT: OK, so… REALLY busy etc., moving this Sat and have no idea how long until I get back online. *shrug* 🙂 Lucky you all get a break for a week, or so… 😉 😛
If they had a requirement for an IQ test, drug screening, and a psych eval before people were allowed to appear on media shows to air their opinion, or run for office, the country would be a lot better place. I don’t think that anyone should be denied access for the scores they achieve, only that the audience would have a better appreciation of what the opinion was worth.