Someone Got Their Feelings Hurt
The BBC says that Vatican recalls Irish papal envoy after Cloyne report
The Vatican has recalled its special envoy in Ireland after a damning report on the Catholic Church’s handling of child abuse by priests.
Papal Nuncio Giuseppe Leanza has been called back to Rome to discuss the impact of the recent Cloyne Report.
It showed how allegations of sex abuse by priests in Cork had been covered up.
The report led to angry condemnation of the Vatican by Prime Minister Enda Kenny in the Irish Parliament.
In a blistering attack, Mr Kenny accused the church of putting its reputation ahead of child rape victims.
Vice-director of the Vatican press office Father Ciro Benedettini said the nuncio’s recall “should be interpreted as an expression of the desire of the Holy See for serious and effective collaboration with the (Irish) government”.
He added that it “denotes the seriousness of the situation and the Holy See’s desire to face it objectively and determinately.
“Nor does it exclude some degree of surprise and disappointment at certain excessive reactions.”
It would be of mild interest to know what the Vatican believes are “certain excessive reactions”. I don’t remember reading of any beatings, burnings, or lynchings of those involved in the crimes or cover-ups. If the Vatican thinks that getting yelled at for obstructing justice and aiding and abetting felons is “excessive”, they might want to take a course in ethics.
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What do you, or anyone, expect from one of the biggest bunch of hypocrites (in the true biblical meaning) on the planet! I was a member of their *club* when I was a child. As soon as I was able to think for myself (in spite of their attempts at brainwashing), I realized they were hypocrites and left. Most really intelligent people, who can actually think, do eventually. Though sadly, many of them just go join a different club, or start their own. *shrug*
I have no problem believing in a God. I just refuse to believe in Religion. They are simply all groups who want everyone to think as they do to make all the members of the group feel good about it, and to make them feel they belong to *something* (and there are others who will tell them they are really OK, everyone else isn’t), and whatever happens (no matter what) is completely out of their hands, it’s all God’s fault… So, that’s alright then! 😆
PS. If anyone is distressed by this view, it’s my view, and I’m not a hypocrite! And I don’t want any followers either (unless you have lot’s of money you feel the need to be divested of!) Then, by all means… I need it more than those crooked Religions do! 😈
Can’t say it would harm Ireland if the Vatican kept its nuncio
Lapsed Catholics really are a hard lot.
I don’t understand why the US wastes money on a diplomatic mission to the Vatican.
When the Taoiseach got a standing ovation for his condemnation of the conduct of the Church’s hierarchy, the Church should have gotten the message that they needed more than a public relations campaign. They reacted just like Murdoch to the problem, and things continue to go downhill.
What amazes me is that the Church hasn’t figured out that the people who will be carrying the pitchforks and torches have all had their first Communion. The real anger is coming from Catholics, but it is also helping those bigots who hate all Catholics, rather than the institution of the Church.
It sounds to me as if the Irish just told the Papal Envoy to put a Cork in it… <grin_duck_run />
That was really bad, Steve.
LOL @ Steve! 😀
I thought it was one of Steve’s better pun’s Bryan! Certainly… appropriate! 😈 😉
And yeah… I know a few lapsed Catholics, and they are all as unforgiving of the Church as I am. We have a few things in common, one of them is feeling we were really conned! The Church masters are all just Politicians. All talk, zero substance.
The current Pope especially is driving people away, once they discover his true background. *shrug*
What a rum Cobh you are Steve!
My thought on this is that if you don’t want to be called a child-buggerer, don’t bugger children.
That is all.
– Badtux the Brutal Penguin
Like Kryten I was brought up RC. I parted company with that brand of religion at 16 and have never replaced it with another one.
The response of the Church’s hierarchy over the years has been an utter disgrace. By looking to protect reputation than root out criminals the have gained nothing but contempt . By their actions and inaction the hierarchy spat in the face of those priests nuns monks and lay workers who do nothing but the best for their charges.
No matter how often it is proven that people and organizations that immediately admit when they screw-up, fix the problem, and apologize are always better off than those who become defensive and deny responsibility, some groups refuse to learn. If you claim perfection, every error is magnified. A little humility can prevent a lot of law suits.
It is hard to believe that we have descended to the level of Irish place name puns.
When religion and politics mix, religion always loses.
Agreed.Bryan. Better to admit blame and look to fix it than sweep it under the carpet.
An English diocese is trying to weasel out of responsibility for a sex abuse case by claiming that a diocesan priest is not an employee as such:
http://thepoormouth.blogspot.com/2011/07/priest-is-not-employee-diocese-claims.html
Not heard the outcome of this. It should have ben thrown out of court in nanoseconds.
I apologise for my use of irish place names as puns. It is for this reason I did not frame this comment in the form of a Limerick!
Yup. You are correct there Bryan (and jams).
We have that in common jams, I was around 16 also, and I have known several others who left around that age. Maybe that’s the *age of enlightenment* or some such. Suddenly, your eyes open and you realise *this is all a load of rubbish* (at least, that’s what happened to me, I’d actually began to read the Bible for myself, and asked questions of my Parish Priest that he didn’t want to answer).
BTW, I do not think all people who work for a Religious group are bad. I became a member of a Baptist ministry some years ago after constantly hearing good things about the Minister there. I wanted to see for myself. I was pleasantly surprised. He believed in the principle of *talk is cheap* and *they shall know me by my actions*. He did a lot to help those in need, and I decided to help. We also has several good (and even enlightening) discussions. Unfortunately, this congregation was in an old suburb, and there were a bunch of elderly busy-bodies who didn’t hold with all this *new* touchy-feely stuff, and all sweetness & light. They wanted all those bums told how evil they were and shipped off somewhere else, not helped! So after many complaints by these *church elders*, the good minister was moved far away. And that is so typical, that I simply don’t bother with any organised religion any longer. It’s not worth the effort. There are some good people, and as that saying goes “no good deed goes unpunished”. That would at least be an honest slogan for most religions. *shrug*
There is nothing wrong with religion, it’s the churches that suck. They are institutions and act like it. Form is more important than substance.
The local fundie church really didn’t understand why my Mother was livid when they spent $65K on an electronic sign while there were homeless people in the area who needed help. Most of the fundie churches spend lots of money on foreign missions while ignoring local problems.
The pastor who started that church was a really great guy, who did a lot of good things locally, so the church grew, but then some people decided that the church shouldn’t deal with the local ‘dregs of society’ because it was beneath the dignity of the church. The pastor moved on, and the congregation went from most of the people in the town, to a majority of people from outside, as it remains today. It is more of a media company than a church these days.