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An Excuse, Not The Reason

Labour MPs prepare for leadership contest after Corbyn loses confidence vote 172-40.

OK, as Atrios said, the establishment/centrist Labour members have been looking for an excuse to dump Jeremy Corbyn, and are using a mess created by the Tories – Brexit. Corbyn lost a vote by the Labour MPs, but he won the leadership by winning 60% of the Labour Party membership.

If Remain had prevailed, they would have challenged him for helping Cameron. It is an excuse, not the reason.

22 comments

1 Kryten42 { 06.30.16 at 4:25 pm }

Want to hear something you might think is a joke, that I jokingly thought about doing? The curious thing is… The more I investigate & think about it, the less funny and more sense this makes! What am I talking about? Just this:

Moving to Transylvania!

I sent a couple email queries simply out of curiosity & boredom, and the responses made me far less amused and more curious & interested! :/ Now… I dunno WHAT to do! My damned sense of humor often get’s me in trouble, but I rarely do it to myself! Poetic justice I guess! LOL

It also makes sense since Prometeus are expanding their hosting in Romania, and when I (half-jokingly) mentioned last week in an email about my considering moving to Romania, they gave me reasons why I should (including some paying ones)!

I am absolutely fed up with Aus., no chance in hell I would move to the USA, the UK is FUBAR, even though I have several relatives and a UK passport…

What’s that old saying… “Hoist by my own petard”! LOL And I didn’t even realise I was playing with a small bomb! 😉

2 Bryan { 06.30.16 at 9:33 pm }

It’s a job and they haven’t figured out how to be assholes yet. They probably have working broadband at a reasonable price, and Romanian is another variation on Latin, so even if English wasn’t as common as it is, it isn’t the worse language to master.

The Coalition put all of their chips on China buying raw materials and the Chinese stopped. Times are going to be hard.

At least your elections are over tomorrow, we have a bit more than 4 months to go.

3 Kryten42 { 07.01.16 at 10:47 am }

Roger that.

One of the things I specifically asked about was honest Internet statistics. The avg for all of Romania is 78 Mbps, & Transylvania is above that average (on par with Singapore/Hong Kong). They have quite a large IT/Tech center that has it’s own infrastructure and Internet is available up to 220D/110U Mbps ADSL or 160 Mbps SDSL (or more if you are willing to buy your own fiber, which is actually about half what that would cost here!) They are very keen to attract new startup businesses into that center. Apparently, the Government is specifically targeting British citizens and have made it extra attractive. I was told that if my UK Passport/citizenship is current, I’m in (it is). 🙂

I think I may have to make a trip and have a good look some time later this year. Good thing I kept a some $thousands in a rainy day account! It’s pouring (literally also as it happens)! LOL

Oh well, guess I’ll see what happens later today with the election. But even if Labor win, I doubt it will be a large majority, and they may not win both houses. So little will actually change. *shrug*

4 Kryten42 { 07.01.16 at 10:59 am }

Oh! The city in Transylvania is Cluj-Napoca, it’s about 450 km from Bucharest where Prometeus has it’s datacenter, and a couple other companies I deal with. There is a direct fiber bundle between Cluj & the datacenter, which is a large one with a lot of co-location/co-hosting services. Travel is by road or a daily train service between them, or light aircraft. 🙂

I might check out Bran Castle & Rasnov Citadel! 😀

A down side is it’s stuck between Serbia, Moldova, Ukraine & Hungary!

5 Bryan { 07.01.16 at 10:02 pm }

The train will get you to Vienna in a day, but I don’t advise driving unless the roads have really been improved. [Not that I have any personal knowledge, of course] but the trains are usually reliable. From a quick check of the ‘Net it seems to be the tech center in Eastern Europe.

OK, what’s with the ‘sausage sizzle’ at polling places. That’s probably illegal in the US.

What a great idea scheduling an election in the middle of the winter !?

6 Kryten42 { 07.01.16 at 10:33 pm }

Hey! The sausage sizzle was the best part of my voting an hour ago! It helps reduce the tedium of waiting in line almost 40 min’s! Many polling places apparently had queue’s of 1 to 2 hours!

Thankfully, the weather gave us a break and we actually saw the sun for a change! Wahoo! Nothing worse than eating a damp sausage sanga! LOL

And yes, the roads in Romania still suck, but I was told they are being improved. LOL

7 Bryan { 07.02.16 at 10:41 am }

OK, so further reading told me that it is a fund-raising thing for non-profits and not at every polling place. So Shorten screwed up by not eating from the end, and Turnbull’s a wiener for not buying a hot dog. This is like the corn dog / Philly cheese steak competitions in US politics.

8 Kryten42 { 07.02.16 at 4:58 pm }

Oh, yeah. That too. They are usually run by Rotary, Salvo’s, Schools etc.

Well, it’s looking like a hung parliament Both currently have 67 seats, with 11 in doubt. Whoever pulls ahead, would have to do deals with the minor parties and independents to form a Government, which history shows rarely works. We probably won’t know until Tuesday. It could also very much be a hung parliament & another election. *shrug*

9 Bryan { 07.02.16 at 9:24 pm }

It would appear that a growing number of your fellow citizens have gone ‘a curse on both your houses’ route and are voting for independents and minor parties. That is what Spain is going through currently and is the norm for Israel.

10 Kryten42 { 07.03.16 at 1:52 am }

Just FYI… Don’t bother checking ABC (Aus. ABC) for election news. Think of them as FOX News. Since the LNP made it clear that if the ABC want their funding they better kiss the LNP ass (the ABC is Federally funded). ABC used to be pretty honest before the Lib’s took power. *shrug*

Just got an update on the current tally results from the official AEC (Australian Electoral Commission):

L/NP: 64, ALP: 69, Greens & Independents: 5

AEC Tally Room – House of Representatives

11 Bryan { 07.03.16 at 10:12 am }

Kryten, neither of us single-source anything 😉

As for ABC is suffering the same way that the US NPR [National Public Radio] suffers, political interference. You always have to adjust for tribal bias when evaluating primitive societies 😈

12 Badtux { 07.03.16 at 12:17 pm }

I generally trust foreign news about a domestic event more than I trust local news about a domestic event. Especially if it’s from multiple sources on different continents, it *might* be true. I have too much experience with what passes for “journalism” these days to trust anything I read in the local news unless I’ve validated it in multiple ways. After a while reading a particular news source and comparing it with others I learn how to read between the lines and figure out what really happened, but it’s a process that’s prone to error because different reporters and editors have different biases that they want the story to satisfy. Having had my own quotes mangled multiple times by reporters to fit the story they wanted to tell rather than the story as it was, I’m not going to talk more about that.

13 Bryan { 07.03.16 at 10:26 pm }

In the 19th century newspapers didn’t pretend to be non-biased, they put their bias right in their names, i.e. Democrat & Chronicle or Republican Herald. You can adjust for a known bias. It was pathetic when you had 8th-graders complaining that the media hadn’t accurately reported a speech that Al Gore gave at their school. They wouldn’t admit they screwed up even after the kids played a recording of the speech.

The media feels they are the only people who can judge what they do, so you get Judith Miller using the New York Times to tell fairy tales…

14 Kryten42 { 07.04.16 at 5:20 am }

Well, given that most employ ex models as news reader/anchors/reporters etc… *shrug* Like FOX & Gretchen Carlson, Miss Minnesota & Miss America 1989. Anyone who thinks they have a clue about anything, is delusional. Mind you, at least Gretchen was a talented Violinist, so she has that. LOL

15 Bryan { 07.04.16 at 3:26 pm }

Before Reagan the media hired reporters, now it’s just actors to play reporters. Calling them news readers doesn’t change the reality that they don’t actually report or write anything, they just read whatever shows up on the teleprompter.

16 Kryten42 { 07.04.16 at 9:05 pm }

True. It’s one of the reason I prefer to call them “bobbleheads” and have for years. 🙂

An election update from The Guardian:
Shorten fought on policies while Turnbull sat back waiting for the people to elect him

I think that’s reasonably accurate. And yes, whatever happens Turnbull is probably finished. A good thing… Or it would be, except that his replacements are as bad and even worse! *shrug*

I think it will be a hung government. I can’t see either getting a majority now, though it may be possible. It will depend on the postal votes. And several of the independents have stated they will not deal with either party.

BTW, one thing to know is the The Liberal party on it’s own has NEVER won more votes than The Labor Party. They only win power because of the National Party which always get’s a lot of seats in Queensland and some in NSW. That’s why they created the L/NP Coalition.

Currently Labor: 64, Lib’s: 39, NP & NP: 25

17 Kryten42 { 07.04.16 at 9:10 pm }

Oops! Should be: LNP & NP

18 Bryan { 07.04.16 at 9:28 pm }

We can settle on the Coalition vs Labor, and the AEC is saying 67 / 71 favor Labor with 6 seats undecided. Labor would need 5 out 6 to win and the Coalition can’t win if those numbers hold. Hung parliament is the safe bet.

19 Kryten42 { 07.05.16 at 2:49 am }

I think a hung government is a good thing. Figuratively speaking, of course. Hmmm… No, make that figuratively and factually! LOL

So, in a bid to outdo the USA in dirty elections, the Lib’s tried this:

Senator Glenn Lazarus is seeking legal advice about the validity of Saturday’s election after he received reports ballot papers were in short supply at polling booths.

Senator Lazarus, who has conceded defeat in Queensland’s senate race, posted a message on his Facebook page calling into question the process of the federal election and blames the ballot paper shortage on the Coalition for slashing funding to the Australian Electoral Commission (AEC).

“I am absolutely shocked that polling booths would run out of ballot papers leaving voters unable to vote,” he said in a statement on Facebook.

“According to many people they were told by AEC staff to check their name off the electoral roll so they could be excused from voting to avoid a fine because the polling booth had run out of ballot papers. Given the extent of the complaints, I have referred this matter to a constitutional lawyer for advice.”

“I have also been advised by many people that the Turnbull Government slashed funding to the AEC and reduced the number of polling booths across the country and the number of AEC workers at polling booths,” Senator Lazarus said.

“This would explain why voters experienced unprecedented delays at polling booths and booths also ran out of ballot papers.” He reiterated that he was not trying to overturn his expected dumping by the electorate but to ensure elections are conducted in a more professional manner in the future.

So far, Senator Lazarus’ office has received several hundred written complaints in relation to a shortage of ballot papers. A spokeswoman from his office said the complaints were from “all over Australia” and included the seat of Cowper in which independent MP Rob Oakeshott failed in his bid to be re-elected after leaving parliament in 2013.

So, the Lib’s can’t even rig an election and win! LOL

So the count has been suspended in Gilmore because the AEC can’t find a letter opening machine. I’m not even kidding.
— Joe McKenzie (@aJoeMcKenzie) July 5, 2016

20 Bryan { 07.05.16 at 8:46 pm }

They shouldn’t have borrowed election ideas from the Republicans. the Republican governor and legislature in Florida produced the same results with the games they played with the election laws. Given that people are required to vote in Australia, a law suit is definitely in order.

The AEC is definitely pointing at a hung Parliament and Turnbull is sounding like he’s going to resign as party leader.

21 Kryten42 { 07.05.16 at 9:43 pm }

Yes (to both). There is no chance now that either will have a majority, even with all the Independents (many of whom refuse to deal with either party).

I voted Greens & some independents, & will again. Because in my view, both major parties have no real clue and have lost the plot. Seems most people agree.

Sadly, people voted for Pauline Hansen who is a moron rather than either major party candidate in her electorate, and nobody likes her! She knows as much about politics as Honey Boo Boo, and probably less! She’s just a big mouthed bigot with a huge chip on her shoulder!

Transylvania is looking better every day! *shrug*

22 Bryan { 07.06.16 at 2:25 pm }

Labor has a lead in total votes and the Coalition is now leading 74-71 according to the AEC, but things could change as there postal ballots left in a number of seats.