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Australopithecus rupertus has grunted again according to this ABC article:

Murdoch tweeted on Saturday, to his more than 500,000 followers: “Maybe most Moslems peaceful, but until they recognize and destroy their growing jihadist cancer they must be held responsible”.

In the same article they note:

Australian comedian Adam Hills joined the chorus of scathing criticism with “Oh good, Rupert Murdoch has waded into the Charlie Hebdo debate. I was wondering what an outdated, bigoted, sociopath might make of it all”.

Since the vast majority of the victims of these whackos are Muslims, I have to believe that they really would like these murderers to go away, be put away, or just killed, which is why governments in Muslim countries are at war with them.

More bad news for the French right wing whackos according to a CBC report. The raid on the Kosher supermarket was made much easier when a Muslim employee of the store sneaked out after hiding a group of shoppers to bring the police a key to the store’s security shutters.

11 comments

1 Badtux { 01.13.15 at 11:17 pm }

Of course, one of the major press organs of those French right wing whackos is, uhm… Charlie Hebdo. Not that it excuses the attack. I may dislike the KKK, but I do not advocate murdering KKK members, even if they are nasty racists with few redeeming qualities.

– Badtux the Investigating Penguin

2 Bryan { 01.14.15 at 12:34 am }

I would never consider posting any of the anti-Islamic cartoons from the Danish newspaper or Charlie Hebdo, but will defend their right to be assholes, because of my firm belief in freedom of expression. I’m with Voltaire on this issue. I will offer the same defense to anyone who wants to point out that the people who publish the cartoons are assholes.

3 Kryten42 { 01.14.15 at 4:26 am }

Errr… You mean ‘Moslems’, right? 😉 LOL

I have been absolutely loving this! LOL I always enjoy when Murdoch comes out of hiding and has something to say! LOL The gift that keeps on giving. 😀

I like JK Rawling comments, and several others, posted here:

JK Rowling had the best possible reaction to Rupert Murdoch’s anti-Muslim tweet

This piece is interesting also:
What everyone gets wrong about Charlie Hebdo and racism

The only reason Rupe is so wealthy proves that the World is full of stupid bigoted morons. Humanity is doomed to fail.

Good.

PS. Murdoch is a US Citizen, since ’85 I think. Not our problem! 😛
PPS. I would have no problem at all practicing my skills on the KKK, or others like them.

4 Badtux { 01.14.15 at 11:22 am }

Kryten, the problem with rule of gun, the problem I keep harping on for the Libertopians who insist that “an armed society is a polite society” (a phrase they got from an early novel by a sci-fi writer that he wrote in 18 days time for beer money, for crying out loud), is that rule of gun favors the most nasty, evil people out there. Because they are, by and large, those who have no inherent qualm about hurting or killing other people. This can and is trained into “good guys” but the “bad guys” have it by default. Take a pasty 40-something accountant who works for a supermarket chain, and take one of the little sociopath 11 year old drug dealer’s kids that I taught in an inner city school in Houston, and give each of them a gun and tell the kid, “that guy has a fat wallet with a thousand dollars in it.” The accountant will end up dead, the kid will end up with a fat wallet. (Without the gun the accountant would have merely ended up poorer, but with the gun he was of course too much a threat to be allowed to live).

A gun, in other words, is not a magic talisman that makes the good guys win, and rule of gun generally ends up with a society that I would prefer not to live in. Rule of law in civil society is boring and sometimes bad guys get to stay above ground who we all wish would go away or get a clue, but it is like democracy, the worst of all systems other than all others that have been tried.

5 Bryan { 01.14.15 at 10:46 pm }

You misunderstand Kryten, Badtux. Both of us have had to ‘neutralize bad actors’ at the insistence of governments. Kryten provided an individualized service, bespoke neutralization. I was in the wholesale segment, and did it by marking map overlays.

We understand that violence doesn’t solve the problem of the bigots among us, but neither of us would suffer with any moral quandary if directed to target certain people, like terrorists.

6 Badtux { 01.15.15 at 12:09 pm }

Perhaps I did misunderstand Kryten, Bryan, but I did not see his last comment as necessarily reflecting said bespoke service to government. In any event, most of my shot was at Libertopians who spew nonsense like “the solution to crime is more guns”, which is utter nonsense, as my example of the 11 year old drug dealer’s kid and 40 year old accountant should show.

7 Bryan { 01.15.15 at 3:20 pm }

We had been discussing the moral problems involved in doing our duty and where we drew the line, which was essentially ‘are we convinced based on the information we have that these people really guilty?” The Klan has a long history of terrorism in this country. If you join you are assuming the onus of that history. That’s why they spend so much time and effort attempting to rewrite history.

As to your point about guns, we agree with you that guns don’t help to reduce crimes and actually make violent crime easier, because a major source of the weapons used in crimes are stolen from non-criminals in burglaries.

8 Kryten42 { 01.15.15 at 8:02 pm }

Sorry badtux. 🙂 I made the assumption that you understood my point of view, but I realise I didn’t make that clear. My apologies.

Bryan is correct. We worked to remove as many ‘bad actors’ (a term I haven’t heard for many years Bryan 😉 ). But we are not wholesale murderers. The people I removed had a proven history of wholesale death and destruction, and were deemed to be nonredeemable. The KKK, and others, in my view, are similar. And were I still on active duty and given an order to remove an official from such organizations, and the evidence proved beyond doubt that they deserved it, I would not hesitate. As I said elsewhere, I never followed orders blindly, and always double checked the data. I trust nobody.

Make no mistake. I will not hesitate to kill if it is the only option I have. Whether self-defense, or to save another. I am neither a murderer nor a vigilante. However, if someone gives me sufficient reason, they are dead.

Thanks Bryan. 🙂

OT: Well, I have limited internet now (public). I officially start my new lease Sat. and move this weekend. Will take up to 4 weeks to get internet connected, so online time will be limited until then.

Be well all, and take care! 😀

9 Bryan { 01.15.15 at 11:43 pm }

We do tend to speak in ‘shorthand’ when discussing certain subjects, Kryten, and may not be clear to those who have never waded through those sewers with us. Too many years keeping too many secrets.

OT: Good luck with the move, and we’ll see you when you are connected again.

10 Kryten42 { 01.16.15 at 12:58 am }

I have some internet access (I’m at a friend’s for dinner). Woohoo! LOL

You are correct as usual Bryan. 🙂 I try not to use shorthand, but ‘old habits’… 🙂 And yes, sewers is a very apt metaphor! Sewers literally (probably not for your USAF days, but maybe your LEO days), and of the mind (which I’m sure you were forced to deal with as I was! The worst kind of sewer there is!)

Badtux my friend (I mean that sincerely), you and the other regulars here are the reason Bryan and I did what we did. Because sadly, the World is full of people with an opposite view. I’ve only had to use my skills once in civilian life, when I worked for Amnesty. I resigned not long after, Though I saved the lives of 8 teenagers from around the World (including the USA) at the cost the lives of four local armed gang members. I did not enjoy it. I never wanted to use my skills ever again. But I am glad that day that I had them. I don’t talk to many about what I did, it’s like that annoying uncle some have that only get’s invited to a party when you need a distraction. At other times, he never get’s mentioned and you keep him hidden. 🙂 People hate what I did, but love me when their lives are on the line. Nobody wants to be reminded that evil people exist, and there are those like me who can remove them, until they are threatened of course. 🙂

And I know my skills may be needed again one day. I can’t walk to the local store without practicing my ‘situation awareness’, ‘threat analysis’ and other tactical observation skills. By the time I’ve walked 100 meters, I’ve already figured a dozen ways to kill someone from several points. I’ve figured in weather, time of day, local conditions, what’s available to use as a weapon (pretty much anything for me, and I have my Swiss Army toolkit with a very good blade on me at all times) etc. In all honesty, I have no idea how to turn it off, and I’m not sure I want to. *shrug*

Most people don’t like what I can do, until It’s needed. Unless they are morons and wannabe Rambo’s… then they think it’s soooo cool! And the first question is “How many have you killed?” The last guy who said that -about 14 Months ago- I punched out, broke his nose. I used to warn them or ignore them, but I no longer have the patience for fools. People are very surprised at how fast I can move, and how strong I am, because I look like an unassuming, somewhat portly, middle aged guy. 🙂

I didn’t sign up because I thought it would be ‘cool’ or fun. From my Grandfathers accounts, and that of others, I knew it would be anything but! I did it because I knew it was necessary. I have no idea how many lives I ended, nor do I care. I do know I saved the lives of thousands of innocents. I do know there are at least 3 young adults now in the World who carry my name, who would not have had I not saved their parents. 🙂 So, in my view, the scales are well balanced in my favor.

And you are quite right m8, the rule of the gun, or of any means of threat to coerce any citizen, is a very bad idea. Sadly, I see the World moving that way. And I grow more certain each day… My skills will be necessary again. Oh well. *shrug*

I do not enjoy violence in any form. And I hated that I was forced to be violent, and take lives. But… It WAS necessary!

One thing that amuses me about most Christians, is that they have this amusing idea that Angels are benign and will love and cherish them if they ask. Sorry, but Angels are God’s Warriors, and they feel nothing. They obey orders, and they are supreme killers and destroyers. They forget that Satan was an Angel once. All according to the Bible that is. 😉 😀

11 Bryan { 01.16.15 at 11:38 pm }

You don’t want to wear out your welcome at your friend’s house, so you will probably be hit and miss. I could go to a few over-priced local places and use their ‘free’ WiFi, but it isn’t encrypted, so I don’t use them.

Thing about aircraft is that they don’t always remain in the air which affords you the opportunity of having a brisk walk through the muck or an ‘ocean voyage’ in a dinky inflatable raft. I certainly did not have it as bad as the guys who were on the ground their entire tour, but I saw a few of the local ‘attractions’ when I was stopping by as a ‘tourist’.

Some people just won’t take a hint, and the only effective solution is targeted violence, like the Lindt Cafe for example. When people are determined to be martyrs there are no other options on the table until someone develops a truly safe knock-out weapon. It would be really nice to be able to ‘set phasers to stun’.

Christians really should read the story of Lot and the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. They would then understand about angels, and might even figure out that the real reasons for the destruction was violating the requirement to show hospitality to foreigners, and to help the unfortunate. Jewish scholars are all over this issue. The whole sex thing is minor league in comparison. The mob wanted the angels because they were foreigners, and that’s why Lot’s daughters were not an acceptable substitute. Actually, they should read the whole Book for themselves and stop accepting other peoples’ interpretations. They can at least read the R rated stuff [violence and sexual content]. The story of Lot has a juicy bit of incest at the end involving the daughters.