A Few Reviews Are In
…and they are rants, not raves. Some might call them shrill and they are not G rated.
Atrios names Obama, Wanker of the Day.
upyernoz says: “it’s official, obama backs the bullshit FISA ‘compromise.'”
Emptywheel notes Obama Replied – “He told me to fuck off.”
Digby wonders if we have been Sistah Soljah’d ?
I do know this: they would not have made this “compromise” and then brought this to the floor without his ok, and probably without his direction. He is the leader of the Democratic Party now, in the middle of a hotly contested presidential campaign. If he didn’t come to them and say to get this thing done before the fall, then they came to him and asked his permission. That’s just a fact. They aren’t going to do anything he doesn’t want them to do.
Greg Sargent gives his reasons for Why Obama’s Support For FISA Cave-In Is Such A Downer.
To be clear, I’m not even talking about whether opposing this would or wouldn’t have carried political peril. It really doesn’t matter. Because if there were ever anything that would have tested his operating premise throughout this campaign — that you can win arguments with Republicans about national security — it was this legislation. If ever there were anything that deserved to test this premise, it was this legislation.
And this time, he abandoned that premise.
You really don’t want to read the pro-Hillary bloggers.
At various places I have asked for reasons to vote for Obama. What normally happens is that people tell me what’s wrong with John McCain. As I have said here on multiple occasions, I am thinking of leaving the Presidential line blank, not voting for a Republican.
A number of times the argument has been put forth about the probability of having to nominate one or more Supreme Court justices. After this, do you trust Obama, because I don’t. This is the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution he wants to disregard. He reportedly teaches/taught Constitutional law. I would wonder whose constitution he was teaching?
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You really don’t want to read the pro-Hillary bloggers.
heh. oh yes i do. 🙂
obama sounds like the kind of instructor i would have liked, but it would appear that constitutional law was only one of several courses he taught. and apparently it wasn’t exactly his strongest course either, though i may be making an unwarranted inference from that last article.
I am on the Obama email list. I clicked on the unsubscribe link and found that it includes an optional field to explain why one is unsubscribing.
I wrote:
“The Senator has caved in to Mr. Bush by accepting Telcom immunity in the FISA bill. Now is the time for leadership. Now is the time to stand up for our Rights. I had thought that Mr. Obama was capable of being the leader we need.
I now believe that, while Mr. Obama *speaks* of “real change in Washington”, he will not act.
I would like to be proved wrong in this belief, but Mr. Obama has only days to prove me wrong by rallying his fellow Democrats in the Senate to stop this subversion of the rule of law.”
If any of you reading this are on his email list, I urge you to unsubscribe and use that field to show him what he must do to win your support.
I’m getting a feeling that the Obama campaign thinks that everyone will automatically line up and vote for him no matter what he does between now and the election. That is probably how things go in Chicago, but it is not how things go in the US.
The Republicans are hurting, but turn out will win the November election. If people don’t turn out, you lose. People aren’t going to forget about this. This is a big deal after 8 years of another Imperial Presidency. This is my second, and I don’t want a third, no matter which party is in the White House.
Since he was declared the presumptive nominee he has reached out to everyone except his supporters. This is not going to cut it. If this goes through, the convention may not be the “love fest” he assumes, because he isn’t the nominee until after the convention.
I specifically chose the reactions from people who came out in support of him and avoided the Hillary bloggers to emphasize that this is a big deal and it isn’t going away.
Good post Bryan. Some very pissed-off bloggers out there!
A lot can happen between now and the election, but I suspect it will be a very low turn out, possibly the lowest ever. The feeling I get is that many people are now at the “why bother? who cares.” stage already. As you say, burned out.
C& L are, of course, all over it. 🙂
Where is Obama on the FISA fight? Obama responds! UPDATED 1,2, &3
Rep. Peter Welch (D-VT) on FISA: ‘The American people deserve to know exactly what happened and they deserve to know who is accountable. This bill fails that test.
Turley on new FISA bill: ‘It’s what any criminal would love to do.’
Everything I’ve seen indicates that Obama is a bit of a control freak, so there is no way he didn’t give his OK on this.
They miss the obvious – you pander to your base during a primary and move to the center for the general. He started out right of center and is moving even further right for the general.
People didn’t get it – the primary was further left than he actually is. The primary was as far left as he wanted to go. He isn’t a liberal or a progressive, he’s a moderate conservative, free trade, pro-business, the whole 9 yards.
These people have no one to blame but themselves – they bought his act and embellished it with their own imagination. He’s a machine politician – that’s all there is to him.
When the veteran civil rights people all endorsed Clinton, people should have figured out that Obama was not their dream come true.
“But he opposed the war!’ Yeah, exactly the same way he is opposed giving away the Bill of Rights. A lot of people need to grow up and start seeing things as they are, not as they want them to be.
I’m more than a little tired of all of the crap I’ve had to put up with because I refused to go along with this charade. If people want to reward the Democratic party for what they have done, it’s their choice, but don’t expect me to join in the masochism.
awwwww, come on, join in the masochism!
[i’d have said obama’s more than bit of a control freak]
There is still time to correct the mistake, but I don’t expect anything to be done.